Just got 2 of these for an XC build I'm about to put together. Weights were on target (and a little bit under) for both, and they were the same weight for both rims. As I'm going for a stealth look I removed the stickers and saved 2g/rim (wowee )
Inside rim width is 20mm, outside is about 23 or 24, which is per the initial reports.
Also I'm wanting an opinion on a good set of hubs. I'm thinking of the newer type of AM classics, but I'm not sure on their reliability
I would build with a set of AC's. I have not seen many reliability issues for a while. Lace them up with some light spokes like the DT Revolution or the Sapim CX-Ray's.
I am getting a set of Alpines with AM Classic front HUB and ZTR rear, should be in soon. Went with the AM Classic for the front as it is very light and was a slight price increase in $ over the ZTR. Stuck with the ZTR for the rear as the weight penalty over ztr was very minor and not worth the $ imo. DT Rev spokes btw. I am told this build weighs 1325 w/o yellow tape/valve.
What are the changes for the 010 AM hubs? Anyone know?
Here is my Alpine wheelset. I went with AM frnt and ZTR rear hubs. I have'nt even mounted and ridden them yet so I have no ride report. Should be a very reliable wheelset as long as I keep them true. Total weight was 1335 as weighed by Stans. IMO this wheelset is a good value/weight combo especially considering I got 2 free tires of my choice when I ordered from my lbs.:thumbsup:
They're probably all alloy, but that's his homage to SLR's
Still in the process of getting stuff together, and more importantly choosing spokes. I am torn between something simple like revolutions, slightly more exotic with CX-rays, or we have a local builder in Melbourne who specialises in Marwi plain guage Ti spoke builds. The WW in me says the Ti (and I do have the opportunity to test a friend's set) - and I am hoping the large flanges on the AM classic hubs leads to a shorter spoke and less flex.
Alex: I don't think the Marwi plain gauge spokes will be lighter than Sapim CX-rays. Sapim CXrays are very light. The only ti spokes that are lighter and commonly available is the Pillar PST1422. I have a set built with those. The stiffness is still good. Not as good as say CX-rays, but on par with the thinner gauge DT swiss revolutions that Stans notubes build his ZTR Race wheels with.
I've been using the same aluminum bolts with loctite on my hardtail 29er for a few years and have never had a problem. I did have to shave a little material off of each front rotor bolt as they were rubbing slightly.
OK, the main difference to look at is that the CX-ray is bladed (more like ovalised though) and the revolution is round.
They are about the same weight for equal length spokes, with CX-ray about 10g lighter for 64.
Where they differ is stiffness and fatigue life. Revo's are usually used only for race MTB and road wheels, wheras the CX-ray have been used in DH wheels by the likes of 5 or 6 time world champ Nico Vouilloz.
Alex: I don't think the Marwi plain gauge spokes will be lighter than Sapim CX-rays. Sapim CXrays are very light. The only ti spokes that are lighter and commonly available is the Pillar PST1422. I have a set built with those. The stiffness is still good. Not as good as say CX-rays, but on par with the thinner gauge DT swiss revolutions that Stans notubes build his ZTR Race wheels with.
aside from my first hand experience try the speedgoat.com website and look at their wheel builder section. Build a wheel with both spokes, you will see the difference. They list real time weights as you build.
marwi ti spokes for american classic hubs and olimpic rims 3 cross weigh 116g for 32 spokes. if I was going to build them again I would go 3 cross disk side, 2 cross rear drive side and 1 cross left front side for more savings.
marwi ti spokes for american classic hubs and olimpic rims 3 cross weigh 116g for 32 spokes. if I was going to build them again I would go 3 cross disk side, 2 cross rear drive side and 1 cross left front side for more savings.
For my Mavic , Hope Pro 2, Marwi is 1330g = not uber light but around 690$ for the entire build. I have been thinking Stans Rims for a while.. I believe my spoke length is 262 = I am curious if any of you whom actually build wheels or know how to use the spoke calculators.... Know what length a hope pro 2 too Alpine would need.. Trying to save cash everywhere I can.... Wedding/ and a crazy mother in law our killing my hobby
I believe my spoke length is 262 = I am curious if any of you whom actually build wheels or know how to use the spoke calculators.... Know what length a hope pro 2 too Alpine would need.
You'd also have to use a special tool to cut threads farther down the spoke. As they are now the nipples will bottom out before the spokes are tensioned.
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