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I'm looking to do some racing in SS and would like to build up a dedicated SS frame. Anyone have suggestions? I'm planning to use it for the NUE series and a few XC races. Thanks!

I currently ride a hardtail 29er that I race XC with. I race Cat 1, but the feel of SS has be drawing me in ever since I picked up an All City Nature Boy. I'm converting my current XC rig to SS to test it out at a few races, but I'm curious to the options of dedicated frames.


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Depends obviously on what you're looking to spend and if you're really trying to go light. Tough to beat the sub 3# carbon frames if you're trying to build a real, dedicated race bike. I have 2 Lynskey Ti SS frames, a Ridgeline and a Pro29. The Pro29 is a stiff racing machine but I've bikepacked on it as well so it's pretty darn multipurpose. That frame is a smidge over 4#. I'm actually selling it since I've decided I don't need 2 Ti frames. (2012 Lynskey medium Pro29 SL - Buy and Sell and Review Mountain Bikes and Accessories)
Another great Ti frame are the Vassago Optimus Ti's...built in PHX, they are solid, well build machines that will serve you well for years.
 

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Good suggestions! Looking for fairly light but tough I guess. Any opinions on Spot Brand?


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I love my Niner One9 RDO with the passion of a thousand fiery suns, but they had an issue w/ the BB shell insert and I don't think new frames will be available until June sometime. If you can wait until then I highly recommend one. (Caveat, I've only had 2 SS frames, both were Niners, and I loved them. My other HT is a Santa Cruz Highball which I only ride for ultra-endurance stuff now).
 

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Salsa El Mariachi Ti. I normally ride a steel El Mar, but borrowed my buddies' Ti bike for the Whiskey 50 this past weekend. Loved the lighter weight for racing. Seems like a great balance between weight and durability.
 

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I was looking at the El Mar Ti!!! Seems like a nice frameset


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I was looking at the El Mar Ti!!! Seems like a nice frameset


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It's very nice, I have one and it's rock solid, VERY stiff for a Ti bike but not jarring like some Al frames. It's much stiffer than the steel version. My XL frame came in at 4.5 lbs.
 

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It's very nice, I have one and it's rock solid, VERY stiff for a Ti bike but not jarring like some Al frames. It's much stiffer than the steel version. My XL frame came in at 4.5 lbs.
How heavy is your total rig? I'm gonna be using my build or mainly endurance SS and few XC races mixed in. I need something that's fairly light but can take a beating on the rocks!


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Mine is 22 lbs but I didn't try to get it light. I have a Brooks Saddle and other heavy things, like a suspension fork. the only Carbon on it is the Thomson All Mountain carbon bar and the brake levers. You could easily build one rigid under 18 lbs.
 

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Like I said, I road my buddies Ti El Mar and really liked it. It gave me the bug replace my stell El Mar and build up a lighter SS race bike.

So I have been looking for a light-ish, durable frame as well. Starting looking at the El Mar Ti, and have also been looking at Vassago. In fact, I talked to the Vassago owner after I finished the Whiskey 50 and the bikes look real nice.

Here is what I am gathering so far:

Steel El Mariachi (L) 5.99 pounds (actual weight of mine)
Vassage Verhauen (M - comparable size to Salsa L) 4.6 pounds (claimed) $999
Ti El Mariachi (L) 4.27 pounds (claimed) $2200
Vassago Optimus Ti (M) 3.9 pounds (claimed) $1900

Both the steel and the Ti Vassago and looking good to me.
 

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I'm rocking a Pro29 SL this year as my race rig. It's built up with Arch rims on CK hubs, XT brakes, Haven seatpost, Spec saddle and flat bar, thomson stem, SLX cranks, Fox CTD fork. I think it tips the scales at ~24lbs with pedals and bottle cage. Heavier than I'd like, but bullet proof I hope.
 
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