You'd be well advised to make spoke length calculating part of your wheelbuilding learning otherwise you're at the mercy of incorrect information. Trust nothing - measure rims and hubs yourself. Roger Musson's wheelbuilding e-book. tells you everything you need to know.stevo78 said:im going to try and build up a rear wheel, does anyone know the spoke length for hope pro II hubs laced to no tubes crest rims? having a hell of a time trying to figure it out!