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bushpig said:
I didn't know that the Hardpack 2.2 was that old. I found a pair and put them on the Rascal I am building up.
I can not remember the exact year the Hardpack was released. I do remember using one in the fall of 1989. Much better on slightly loose over hardpack than the Ground Control.
 

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shiggy said:
I can not remember the exact year the Hardpack was released. I do remember using one in the fall of 1989. Much better on slightly loose over hardpack than the Ground Control.
I actually still have a Hardpack 2.2. I like it as a front tire for........hardpack......who would have guessed. ;)

I've never heard of the Repack tire.
 

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I want a couple of them

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Did any Specialized Repack tires ever leak out? I saw a garage full of them in '89 but heard that issues had arisen with the name leading to the release of a slightly different tire as the Hardpack.
Specialized infringed on two of my trademarks. The first was in 1983, when they printed and sold "Fat Tire Flyers" t-shirts. The second, of course, was the "REPACK" tire.

The tires were designed for Specialized by the boys at WTB, and I got wind of them when they got the samples. I assume those were the tires you saw. I was kind of shocked that my friends would take part in an infringement of my trademark, but they seemed surprised that it was important to me.

As soon as I heard about the tires, I took legal action. I had a solid case, and even the lawyer for Specialized didn't argue very hard. His recommendation to Specialized was that they pay me a license fee, but they took another tack. The tire became the "HARDPACK" tire because it involved the least amount of adjustment to the expensive molds that had already been made. You just change the E to a D and add a couple more letters. It was cheaper than paying me a royalty.

I have never made a dime off the "Repack" trademark, and I have spent a lot of money defending it.
 

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Specialized infringed on two of my trademarks. The first was in 1983, when they printed and sold "Fat Tire Flyers" t-shirts. The second, of course, was the "REPACK" tire.

The tires were designed for Specialized by the boys at WTB, and I got wind of them when they got the samples. I assume those were the tires you saw. I was kind of shocked that my friends would take part in an infringement of my trademark, but they seemed surprised that it was important to me.

As soon as I heard about the tires, I took legal action. I had a solid case, and even the lawyer for Specialized didn't argue very hard. His recommendation to Specialized was that they pay me a license fee, but they took another tack. The tire became the "HARDPACK" tire because it involved the least amount of adjustment to the expensive molds that had already been made. You just change the E to a D and add a couple more letters. It was cheaper than paying me a royalty.

I have never made a dime off the "Repack" trademark, and I have spent a lot of money defending it.
Thats quite an interesting story.
 

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That the Repack tire was never released is doubly unfortunate. First, it would be nice for the pioneers to get their due. Second, it would be great if Repack was codified as part of the mountain biking world, even to those ignorant of the sports history.

Perhaps the issue could be revisited when a movie is more developed. Just as there was likely a surge in interest in Dog Town gear, a Repack tire would be a great tie in.
 

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bushpig said:
That the Repack tire was never released is doubly unfortunate. First, it would be nice for the pioneers to get their due. Second, it would be great if Repack was codified as part of the mountain biking world, even to those ignorant of the sports history.

Perhaps the issue could be revisited when a movie is more developed. Just as there was likely a surge in interest in Dog Town gear, a Repack tire would be a great tie in.
It is not unfortunate in my view that it was not released. Getting "your due" means getting paid for making the name valuable. The name "Repack" on a tire is an attempt to connect a commercial product to an event that I spent a lot of time, passion and money on, and never received any money for, but gave worldwide recognition to. Obviously I didn't do it for the money, but I certainly didn't do it to make someone else money while I made none.

I have gotten "my due" in any number of books and magazine articles, including the new company history printed by Specialized. Specialized called up a few months ago and told me they were giving me a nice new bike, which is an awesome piece of machinery. I like that kind of "getting my due." I have made my peace with the company, and Mike Sinyard and I get along just fine right now. This is ancient history.
 
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