[PAmtbiker]

Anyone know if there is a way to convert the stock 142+ wheel back to a normal 135 rear hub?

Like many others, I replaced my Specialized wheels and now they are just sitting around. They probably have very little resale, so it would be great if I could at least convert is an use the wheels on my singlespeed or something.

No there is not. The "+" means the hub shell is wider than a standard hub. I'm thinking of gutting my 142+ hub and making it into a wind chime or something...

 

[mtroy]

See below for my experience with the stock hubs. I pretty much only rode gravel roads for the first two months I had the bike because the trails were all snowed in. After a couple of "real" rides, the engagement got even worse than stock (hard to imagine, I know), but only on an intermittent basis. After a couple more rides, there were some funny sounds coming from the rear hub. Took the cassette off and a few large pieces dropped to the floor and a whole lot of ball bearings fell out. Massive disappointment! I as already planning to get new wheels to remedy the engagement issue, but I was shocked to find the thing fell apart within a few hundred miles of easy riding.

I replaced mine with Industry 9s with Arch rims. Love'em!! Highly recommend them! And they fit on easily, just a minor adjustment to the derailleur and I've been pedaling happily ever since. :thumbsup:

I decided to go with I9s (standard 12x142 instead of Specialized's proprietary 142+) instead of Roval Carbons so I don't feel locked into Specialized for my next bike. I really, really like my Specialized Epic Expert 29er, but it's probably not the last bike I will ever buy. The next bike could very well be a Specialized, but maybe not. I decided I9s were more portable to the next bike. The I9s are very modular and configurable, so I see them as an investment that will last for many years, from one bike to the next.

IIRC, the 142+ only affects the spacing of the hub flanges, but not the axle width. 142 and 142+ are the same width as far as the frame is concerned. Correct me if I am wrong, but a quick measuring will bear that out.

 

[skiwi]

IIRC, the 142+ only affects the spacing of the hub flanges, but not the axle width. 142 and 142+ are the same width as far as the frame is concerned. Correct me if I am wrong, but a quick measuring will bear that out.

Yes, and the spacing of the hub flanges (i.e. outer diameter of the hubs excluding axle) are the same between 135 and 142. The axles are 3.5mm wider (each side) between 135 and 142. 142+ moves the flanges another 2mm further out, but keeps the 142mm spacing...

 

[xmangox]

So does this mean that we can use any wheelset as long as it supports 142?

 

[abbeytrails]

Would be nice to get a running list of companies that makes a hub or an adapter that works on these frames....I know I'm in the market for a wheelset. So far, I think King, DT Swiss, Hope and Good 'Oll Hi-Lo crapola is all I am aware of

 

[goneskiian]

So does this mean that we can use any wheelset as long as it supports 142?

Yes.

The "+" is something Specialized added. Does it actually make the wheel stiffer? Probably. Can you feel the difference when riding? Probably not.

Would be nice to get a running list of companies that makes a hub or an adapter that works on these frames....I know I'm in the market for a wheelset. So far, I think King, DT Swiss, Hope and Good 'Oll Hi-Lo crapola is all I am aware of

http://www.syntace.com/index.cfm?pid=1&pk=1314

Scroll down for a list of compatible hubs.

 

[NZRob]

So just recapping

If you buy a std 142 hub for the Epic 29er it just means a slight adjustment in Brake caliper and mech?

the 142+ hub will not work on any other 142 framed bike - or is it just a case of adjusting the caliper and mech the other way?

I havent even taken delivery of my epic yet! but wondering how long the hub/wheels will last...

 

[skiwi]

So just recapping

If you buy a std 142 hub for the Epic 29er it just means a slight adjustment in Brake caliper and mech?

the 142+ hub will not work on any other 142 framed bike - or is it just a case of adjusting the caliper and mech the other way?

I havent even taken delivery of my epic yet! but wondering how long the hub/wheels will last...

sort off - the cluster moves outboard by 2mm, but the brake rotor stays the same. Any 142 wheel will fit a 142+ wheel, but as you say the derailleur requires adjustment by 2mm..

 

[arashi]

sort off - the cluster moves outboard by 2mm, but the brake rotor stays the same. Any 142 wheel will fit a 142+ wheel, but as you say the derailleur requires adjustment by 2mm..

So will the Roval Control SL carbon 142x12 29er wheels fit on a non Specialized bike that uses 142 rear hub?

 

[skiwi]

So will the Roval Control SL carbon 142x12 29er wheels fit on a non Specialized bike that uses 142 rear hub?

Correct - any of the Spec 142 (X-12) wheels will work in a 142 frame. The 142+wheels though won't. These are specific to the Spec bikes with 142+ frames (S-Works at this time).

 

[herbn]

hhmm glad i went with the expert epic evo 26, seems to have a red alloy driver so i guess it's a dt driver. I switched to an xt cassette recently but i realized that the 17 tooth cog is still a single gear, and notches the driver pretty good,probabely when used with the 26. I was wondering if the xtr cassette has the 17 on a spider,or a built in spacer with splines.edit , just looked it up the 17 is the 7th cog from the top ,on the xtr it would still be a single gear, it would be cool if it had a built in spacer or at least double width splines,it's sort of a drag to hold the cassette and knock the gear counter clockwise to unlock it from the driver,kind of shabby, and on a really strong heavy rider(not me) it could eventually be a problem. A ramped ti 17 with a built in spacer,could be just the splines, would be soooo trick.Action tec are you listening? .

 

[Epic29er]

So just recapping

If you buy a std 142 hub for the Epic 29er it just means a slight adjustment in Brake caliper and mech?

the 142+ hub will not work on any other 142 framed bike - or is it just a case of adjusting the caliper and mech the other way?

I havent even taken delivery of my epic yet! but wondering how long the hub/wheels will last...

Yes, a picture is shown at the top of this thread:
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=681526&highlight=142+graphically

 

[goneskiian]

Correct - any of the Spec 142 (X-12) wheels will work in a 142 frame. The 142+wheels though won't. These are specific to the Spec bikes with 142+ frames (S-Works at this time).

Are you sure? I would think the 142+ wheel would work with any 142 (X-12) frame. I thought it was just the wheel that was special in that the flange spacing was a bit wider.

 

[jathanas]

Are you sure? I would think the 142+ wheel would work with any 142 (X-12) frame. I thought it was just the wheel that was special in that the flange spacing was a bit wider.

What he said ^^

The dropout widths for 142 and 142+ are the same. Why wouldn't theSpecialized wheel fit another frame?

 

[Trond]

They're the same end to end, but the end cap on the drive side is shorter. The smallest cog on the cassette will most likely rub the seatstay/dropout area. Check the pic again.

 

[skiwi]

What he said ^^

The dropout widths for 142 and 142+ are the same. Why wouldn't the Specialized wheel fit another frame?

No, the cluster moves another 2mm further out, while the overall width of the axle stays at 142mm. You might get lucky in some frames, but I wouldn't count on it.

So any 142 wheel with fit a Spec 142+ frame, but you need to adjust the rear derailleur for that extra 2mm, but the 142+ Roval Control SL wheels [are not sure to] won't work with a standard 142 frame.

 

[jathanas]

Thanks for the clarification.

So, the cluster moves out 2mm on the 142+hub which means that the cassette might not clear the seat stay / chain stay on a non-Epic 29er?

Cheers, J

No, the cluster moves another 2mm further out, while the overall width of the axle stays at 142mm. You might get lucky in some frames, but I wouldn't count on it.

So any 142 wheel with fit a Spec 142+ frame, but you need to adjust the rear derailleur for that extra 2mm, but the 142+ Roval Control SL wheels [are not sure to] won't work with a standard 142 frame.

 

[skiwi]

Thanks for the clarification.

So, the cluster moves out 2mm on the 142+hub which means that the cassette might not clear the seat stay / chain stay on a non-Epic 29er?

Cheers, J

correct.

 

[Snfoilhat]

Freehub service

So it has easily accessible cartridge bearings (which don't need maintenance, save occasionally to replace one) on the axle, but the freehub turns on loose bearings which need regular maintenance, but which can only be accessed w/ a homemade tool?

I'm curious, has anyone taken the hub into a shop for service? Do they open it up with a sanded down BMX freewheel tool and regrease?

I have ~400 mi on mine and while the axle turns smoothly and silently, the freehub sounds like gravel and has some play. Would like to make the best of a bad situation. Thanks.

 

[twenty6black]

can someone help me with the bearing numbers in the Roval SL wheels???

The front bearings are very small and I could read the what they are....THX

The rear bearing I could read....but is there a PDF for these HUBS ???

THANKS.....LC