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Since my wife decided to go to a spa in Saratoga tomorrow I was thinking of trying out Soquel for the first time, I am just a little worried about the heat. How much cooler is it there compared to San Jose? Should I maybe head to Wilder instead?
 

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Start 6am and you should be fine.

I never rode up from SC, but tried demo at 90 degrees, it was not as enjoyable as when it is 60s or 70s.

Strategy for this wknd should be, ride really early, and ride in shaded areas. (Gap for example)
 

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I won't be able to get there until 8am but I think I'll go ahead anyway. I'll just do a short loop. Probably something like Hihns->Corral->Ridge->Braille->Hihns
 

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ride up highland (towads eureka canyon) to buzzards lagoon to aptos fire creek rd to get to the ridge trail, take hihns mill out.
 

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OK.
Would you recommend Sawpit or Tractor over Braille? I am not a hardcore DH type and I suspect that Braille may be too technical.
 

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your original route is not that short considering you are going up ridge, down corral, up sulfer back to ridge, down braille, up hiln's mill.

Its going to start getting hot right about when you start climbing sulfer.

But if you must, bring lots of ice water with you.

Braille is technical, but only the lower part. At all the features, there are alternate options to go around it. Saw pit has about the same amount of jumps and drops, but stretched all the way down to the very bottom, so it feels less tech~ish.
 

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Here is spreadsheet with what the temps. will be tomorrow on each trail . The temp differences are due to tree height and if the specific trail is mostly a southern or northern slope. Of course I wasn’t able to factor in your heart rate ,VO2 max and watt output for the ride tomorrow, but things like that will affect your body temp too. But to break it down in not too technical layman’s terms, the faster you go the hotter you will get. Unless of course it’s a DH trail.





9AM 10AM 11AM 12AM 1PM 2PM 3 PM

Sawpit 67.5 74.2 88 98.3 112 108 114


Tractor 69 45.5 67.2 32.5 112 108 113


Braille 106 98 88 78 68 77.5 88.6


So as you can see it will be hotter on Sawpit than the other trails for most of the day. Tractor won’t be too hot until 1PM,, so it would be a good choice in the morning. Braille is actually hotter in the morning, but does cool down as the day progresses
 

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Here is a spreadsheet with what the temps. will be tomorrow on each trail. The temp differences are due to tree height and if the specific trail is mostly a southern or northern slope. Of course I wasn't able to factor in your heart rate ,VO2 max and watt output for the ride tomorrow, but things like that will affect your body temp too. But to break it down in not too technical layman's terms, the faster you go the hotter you will get. Unless of course it's a DH trail.

9AM 10AM 11AM 12AM 1PM 2PM 3 PM

Sawpit 67.5 74.2 88 98.3 112 108 114

Tractor 69 45.5 67.2 32.5 112 108 113

Braille 106 98 88 78 68 77.5 88.6

So as you can see it will be hotter on Sawpit than the other trails for most of the day. Tractor won't be too hot until 1PM,, so it would be a good choice in the morning. Braille is actually hotter in the morning, but does cool down as the day progresses
Am I the only one having a difficult time accepting 106F for 9am???
 

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Road-Kill said:
Here is spreadsheet with what the temps. will be tomorrow on each trail . The temp differences are due to tree height and if the specific trail is mostly a southern or northern slope. Of course I wasn't able to factor in your heart rate ,VO2 max and watt output for the ride tomorrow, but things like that will affect your body temp too. But to break it down in not too technical layman's terms, the faster you go the hotter you will get. Unless of course it's a DH trail.

9AM 10AM 11AM 12AM 1PM 2PM 3 PM

Sawpit 67.5 74.2 88 98.3 112 108 114

Tractor 69 45.5 67.2 32.5 112 108 113

Braille 106 98 88 78 68 77.5 88.6

So as you can see it will be hotter on Sawpit than the other trails for most of the day. Tractor won't be too hot until 1PM,, so it would be a good choice in the morning. Braille is actually hotter in the morning, but does cool down as the day progresses
Actually, the tractor trail is guaranteed to be cooler by a good 30F tomorrow, while Braille, Sawpit and Corral will be super hot. I suggest everyone go down Tractor.
 

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OK.
Would you recommend Sawpit or Tractor over Braille? I am not a hardcore DH type and I suspect that Braille may be too technical.
Sawpit means a longer fire road climb up Hihns when temperatures are hotter. Take Tractor, it's not too technical and there's a bypass for anything you're not comfortable doing. Fun trail, but it was a lot of fire road climbing for a short ride down. On the way up to Ridge, I followed a group who showed me a cool little 1 or 1.5 mi single track climb off Buzzard Lagoon to the Ridge.
 

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I convinced the wife to drop me off earlier and I will be taking Tractor down. Braille will have to wait.
Thanks all!
 

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fill Camelback with ice, back fill with water. Prehydrate. And if you are going to be out on a big hot day bring a frozen Platypus . Should have no problems staying hydrated.

Tractor is pretty easy. No mandatory stunts. Only a couple of jumps at the very top. If you want to get down fast Tractor is your ticket. We never go down Tractor. But we frequently ride up it after dropping Saw Pit. I think you original idea of Corral and Braille is a good choice. But as nativeson said climb Highland/Buzzards Lagoon so you get start at ridge at the top.
 

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Actually, the tractor trail is guaranteed to be cooler by a good 30F tomorrow, while Braille, Sawpit and Corral will be super hot. I suggest everyone go down Tractor.
I stand corrected.

I'm getting a early start on the future rain/mud depth spreadsheets. They should in come in handy when there are a bunch of " it's Tuesday and I'm gonna ride Friday, will it be too muddy to ride then" queries.
 

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It was definitely warm yesterday. The riding wasn't too bad, but I was definitely craving some ice for my warm camelbak. Did Corral>suffer>sawpit>out. Glad I skipped tractor>braille.
 

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It was definitely warm yesterday. The riding wasn't too bad, but I was definitely craving some ice for my warm camelbak. Did Corral>suffer>sawpit>out. Glad I skipped tractor>braille.
You climbed suffer yesterday? Wow. Nice job. :thumbsup:

Hinh's climb at the end of all that must have been a chore too.
 

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Due to some logistical issues I ended up going Sunday instead of Saturday. Had a great time there. Wife dropped me off at 7am; I couldn't find Buzzard (I guess you have to continue on Highland - I thought it was at the parking lot), so I went down Hihns, Up Corral, Down Braille, Up Sulphur, Down Sawpit, and back up Sulphur/Ridge Trail to the fireroad to Aptos. There I ran in to a group of nice gentlemen who invited me to join them on the way down to Soquel.

The heat wasn't too bad, though the second time up Sulphur it was definitely getting warm. Probably 80 or so. The descent towards Soquel was nice and cool.

I have to admit that I liked Sawpit better than Braille. Probably because I don't do jumps etc.
 

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Yesterday, I froze two waterbottles for my 11am road ride. On the first climb with the group, I realized I left my bottles at home. :(

That was one long 1 hour ride!
 
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