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Thanx for posting this, hopefully we can get more MTB'ers and just cyclers out to the next event. Its alot of fun.....
 

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How long is that ride? Time and miles? I'm not sure I can do that whole run on my tires. Might have to get some on roads for that! Looks awesome though!
 

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the last one was close to 20 miles... easy pace... I did mine on stock mtb tires and others on 'real' mtb tires...
 

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If you want to bring attention and get respect for cyclists in south florida.. you could try by actually obeying traffic laws...
 

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FLMike said:
If you want to bring attention and get respect for cyclists in south florida.. you could try by actually obeying traffic laws...
Same problem here in Gainesville.
 

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Guaranteed that made more enemies than friends. If you're out there to make a point, why not add some chainlock vs. windshield action.
 

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LMAO! Are people really *****ing about this? This is a great event that shows community and fellowship to the tee! Congrats to the eventies! I will try and join the next one.
 

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Um...yeah. An event like this is supposed to show off how great an area's cycling community is. What does this do? This breaks every bike/traffic law in the books and annoys the hell out of anyone not on a bike.
 

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Um...yeah.
Sorry you lost me at "ditz". :madman: Get over yourself. :thumbsup:
 

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Looks like a fun event for the people cycling. Are the roads closed off for this? Is it sanctioned with local Law Enforcement? Just seems to be very wreckless with some of the cyclist taking over the entire roadway and going in between cars. It might seem like I'm just being an old fart but seriously, I don't think this sends a positive message to the general public about the cycling community. I'd be a little perturbed if I was sitting at the light and that many bikes came flying by that close in the wrong direction on both sides of my car.
 

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Looks like a fun event for the people cycling. Are the roads closed off for this? Is it sanctioned with local Law Enforcement? Just seems to be very wreckless with some of the cyclist taking over the entire roadway and going in between cars. It might seem like I'm just being an old fart but seriously, I don't think this sends a positive message to the general public about the cycling community. I'd be a little perturbed if I was sitting at the light and that many bikes came flying by that close in the wrong direction on both sides of my car.
Doesn't it? No. No. It is. You think correctly. Most people are.

CM events can be AWESOME. They can really show off bike culture and the cycling community. But, as we see here and as we have seen in other towns, most involved don't want to follow basic cycling rules or get some kind of OK from the local government or police force.
 

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The beginning is usually messy... it takes ppl a bit to settle into the right form... the majority of the ride is actually making friends, not enemies, Fish. Don't know how you can guarantee anything w/o being there.
 

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Making friends with other cyclists? Sure. Making enemies with the city, the police, and anyone who happens to be on the roads that day? I'd take that bet.
 

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Not really... actually, we usually get ppl from cars to ride with us on following rides as they ask the corkers what's all the riding for...

How about this... If you're not planning on coming, or its not your thing, leave it alone? You guys are being ******bags because the video shows a couple of minutes (out of a 2 hour ride) where riders do the wrong thing... the video wasn't meant for that... it's a critical mass ride, not a freaking peloton of road racers... to get 200 "untrained" people to do the same thing is a feat in itself...

With that said... come join us on the next, have a good time, and maybe help keep it more organized?
 

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That's all I'm saying. I guess I'm just put off by how things went down up in Gainesville. On CM ride, the tail end of the group ran a red light. That's not allowed and it's unsafe. So a kid got a ticket and all hell broke loose. The CM kids were up in arms crying "police brutality!" and all sorts of crazy stuff.

Something like this SHOULD be organized better. Why not make the cycling community a better part of the overall community instead of just showing everyone you exist in such a disruptive and illegal fashion?
 

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here we take red lights, but we use corkers talking to the cars that have to wait. It's alrite with the cops because 200 ppl are gonna ride by one way or the other,and it's faster that way for everyone.

I agree with you... I sometimes wish our CMs had some kind of leader or a few ppl keeping others on check.
 

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Maybe people like salpic should take the time and effort to organize an event like this. Something that DOES meet their criteria of safe event. Maybe then, they'll find that it's not as easy as it may seem. Yes the event needs to be worked on, and yes there will always be the occasional non prudent rider. But instead of criticizing the whole thing, why not get involved and try to make it better??

I personally had a great time at the event and met a lot of people with my same interersts, one of them bike riding. A lot of people in sidewalks and stoplights asking how they could get involved for the following meet.
 

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I guess people are *****ing a bit who don't really understand what or how the event is supposed to be run. Yes there were some people screwing around and breaking general rules. Hell as you can see at the beginning of the video even I with the camera went inbetween the bus and the car going the wrong way. But it was my first event and it seemed like a free for all at that moment. Now i know better.

Even one of the people who normally runs the events brought many of these factors up while promoting the video:

http://miamibikescene.blogspot.com/2010/07/miami-critical-mass-june-video.html

He also brought up the ride rules which answer many of your questions as to why the events are organized as they are:

http://miamibikescene.blogspot.com/p/miami-critical-mass-guidelines.html

Incase you don't understand why the group runs through intersections here's a great explanation:

For the most part Miami Critical Mass has been very tame, there's been little to no altercations aside from the occasional tap on the horn from an impatient motorist. I can honestly say the majority of people honking are cheering us on, same goes with pedestrians hollering from the sidewalks, I believe the mere sight of an abundance of bicycles on the streets of Miami excites them, it's a beautiful thing. On the contrary, the sight of motorists cooped up in steel boxes, isolating themselves from their surroundings while reducing the quality of air.. not so appealing, eh?

I pose a question to those who don't like the idea of corking and/or just share a common disdain for Critical Mass in general. Have you ever considered how much traffic a really large group of cyclists could back up if they didn't cork intersections? I'm estimating they can possibly back traffic up for close to an hour in some areas, not just 4-5 minutes as they presently do. That is, obeying all traffic laws, riding two abreast, stopping at red lights, no corking etc. Chew on that for a bit.
From what I could tell from attending my first ride and seeing previous video's they're normally very tame and the only people they bother are people who would be bothered by every little stoppage in there day anyways. Also, whomever started this was very smart for starting all the rides in downtown on Friday evenings because sadly the place is a ghost town which is great for the event because we're not causing or adding to any major congestion anywhere riding through an empty city at 7-9pm at night.

We most of the honking we got that day were people cheering us on and gladly allowing the group to proceed on our way. Also CM's have run into police many times before if you watch video's from previous months and usually the cops tend to clear the way.

If CM were to become too over organized and official it would kind of break the entire spirit of the event in my eyes. Right now its just great to see 200-300 people from all different walks of life gathering under one common activity.... biking.
 
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