[Davide]

So, any news about an IBIS e-bike. I know it has been discussed before, but I am kind of maybe-peraphs getting very-somewhat interested in getting an e-bike. I was going to wait another, say, five years, but now that more agile ones are hitting the market I am kind of getting excited about going back to my mid teens and have a sort of motorized companion.

The Orbea Rise seems kind of ideal, less powerful and "light" (it is at 36 pounds!), but I am not so sold on the single pivot suspension. Maybe it does not matter when you have an engine, but I would really like not to have to go back there ... and get instead another IBIS!

So ... any news?

 

[BmanInTheD]

I hope so, tbh. I have an Orbea Rise (along with Ripley, Ripmo, and Exie) for times when I want to ride for days in a row with a lot of climbing or just need a rest. I like the Rise fine but would much prefer an Ibis. The rear end of the Rise is not as plush or responsive as even the Ripley, much less the Ripmo, which is closer in travel to the Rise. Plus there have been issues with crank arms falling off and other things that don't make for a great overall experience when you have a bike from a company that has such a small presence here in the US. I don't want an e-bike for my only bike, but they ARE fun as hell. I would pay up front for an Ibis moped similar in geo and weight to the Rise.

 

[Blatant]

Hold the line, Ibis.

 

[norcalbike]

I don’t think there’s any point in rushing into buying an Ebike right now. The getting is just starting to get good in terms of lightweight and capable models like the Kenevo SL, the prices are still sky high, and I’d have to imagine the tech current tech will be pretty outdated in just a few years.

Could you say this about basically anything including regular MTBs, cars, etc? Of course. But I do think it’s worth staying on the sidelines a bit longer unless you have an injury or something that requires it for accessibility.

 

[Davide]

I don’t think there’s any point in rushing into buying an Ebike right now. The getting is just starting to get good in terms of lightweight and capable models like the Kenevo SL, the prices are still sky high, and I’d have to imagine the tech current tech will be pretty outdated in just a few years.

Could you say this about basically anything including regular MTBs, cars, etc? Of course. But I do think it’s worth staying on the sidelines a bit longer unless you have an injury or something that requires it for accessibility.

Oh, I agree. I was going to wait five, or maybe ten until batteries decide to come down seriously in weight ... but ... as you say, one could end up waiting forever. And the years of biking I have left, one way or another, might be very limited 😇 (<- that is me, going up to flying spaghetti monster heaven) so ... hurry a bit up Ibis! Maybe for 2025!

 

[norcalbike]

Oh, I agree. I was going to wait five, or maybe ten until batteries decide to come down seriously in weight ... but ... as you say, one could end up waiting forever. And the years of biking I have left, one way or another, might be very limited 😇 (<- that is me, going up to flying spaghetti monster heaven) so ... hurry a bit up Ibis! Maybe for 2025!

Oh man if that’s the case then have at it!

 

[mlx john]

These lower power E-mountain bikes are especially great if you like to ride mountain bikes as well. Looked at my Strava stats for 2021 and I was on the MTB 55%, 45% on the E-MTB. Both are fun as hell, and very different. Even though my SL is just under 39# and feels very much like a MTB compared to a full fat, it's nothing like a sub 28# whip like my Stumpy.

When it comes to power, sure the SL might feel anemic to some riders when compared to a full power Levo, or even the Rise with it's 60nm motor. If I rode with other riders on full fat E-bikes, I might be tempted to go with a higher power bike, but the SL is crazy fun and fast.

It's not a weak powered bike by any means imo. Now when I destroy myself on a big ride on the Stumpy, I can still get a fun ride in the next day, or if I'm not feeling particularly motivated, the SL is sitting there whispering "come on, lets go for a rip!"

BTW, the Stumpy with the single pivot flex stay is like a rally car - light, agile, taught and stiff. The SL with 160mm Pike and 155mm DPX2 horst-link coupled with the cascade link is a super plush hover bike.

 

[BmanInTheD]

It's not a weak powered bike by any means imo. Now when I destroy myself on a big ride on the Stumpy, I can still get a fun ride in the next day, or if I'm not feeling particularly motivated, the SL is sitting there whispering "come on, lets go for a rip!"

That's what I try to tell people when they poopoo all over mopeds. It's such a great way to mix it up and save yourself from destroying your legs after multiple days of riding.

 

[Scott2MTB]

I don’t think there’s any point in rushing into buying an Ebike right now. The getting is just starting to get good in terms of lightweight and capable models like the Kenevo SL, the prices are still sky high, and I’d have to imagine the tech current tech will be pretty outdated in just a few years.

In principle this makes sense except, when in this industry have prices ever gone down? Also, while battery tech will surely continue to improve, won't the increasing pressure on the rare metals be likely to make batteries (and hence anything that uses them) more expensive not less?

 

[Robby1]

I had this debate with a friend but we can’t see them improving that much in 5 years for full powered models. Batteries need to get a lot lighter along with smaller motors for the full powered ones so you have the good range.

I’m on my second e bike and love them for exploring or when tired etc. But I’ve also had a malfunction which left me about 16 miles back to the car and if it’s out of warranty it’s a bit pricey. I think best bet for owning an e bike is mid range models and I would change them more often and keep it for 2/3 years with all the changing tech. New Bosch is going wireless and won’t be backwards compatible for example.

I’m happy with my ripmo and ordered a ripley as well cause I like the bikes a lot and I’m not in only owning an e bike territory yet. These will last me a long time as well.

 

[Davide]

Oh man if that’s the case then have at it!

Well, nothing seriously debilitating yet, but I will be hitting 64 next November!!!!!!!! My HD3 is still serving very well, especially after the switch to DVO, but the e-bilke would be nice to go for longer excursions, or tackle those fire roads that seem so frequent, and kind of daunting, in the Bay Area ...

 

[norcalbike]

Well, nothing seriously debilitating yet, but I will be hitting 64 next November!!!!!!!! My HD3 is still serving very well, especially after the switch to DVO, but the e-bilke would be nice to go for longer excursions, or tackle those fire roads that seem so frequent, and kind of daunting, in the Bay Area ...

Full support! We only get so many knees in this lifetime.

 

[Robby1]

Well, nothing seriously debilitating yet, but I will be hitting 64 next November!!!!!!!! My HD3 is still serving very well, especially after the switch to DVO, but the e-bilke would be nice to go for longer excursions, or tackle those fire roads that seem so frequent, and kind of daunting, in the Bay Area ...

I’m 38. What you waiting for 🤣. Enjoy one while you can.

 

[Widgeontrail]

#NevereBike

 

[NorCalTaz]

I've been a firm analog biker who in the past has sworn to "NEVER, EVER, NO WAY!", that is changing with new somewhat permanent health problems that have occurred. Not sure at this point if I will get my stamina back to par, heartbreaking to say the least. I just wish you could buy just the frame/shock setup, I have most of the components on my Ripmo... oh god, did I just say that

 

[Dale-Calgary]

I recently purchased an ebike to go along with my Ripmo but I'm glad Ibis hasn't gone into it yet because I would be too temped, I'll explain.

First Im 53 now and not getting any younger and the climbs are effecting my ride time as I just dont have the energy I used to for riding after work during the week and I was limited to weekend rides and if it was raining thats a no no on my trails and I missed out. So I decided since I do have a Peloton and a gym membership it's time to test one. After one ride I was just thinking **** I could have a lot more fun on ride days and when put into eco mode its still one hell of a workout. I put my money down and today I have a Giant Reign 2022 E+1. Anyone that tries one for the first time can't stop thinking how much fun it is.

The key was I didn't need to spend as much as I did on the Ripmo (which I am not selling), I wanted aluminum, I want a big motor and big battery, I only needed lower end drivetrain as steel will hold up better than expensive light parts. The bike was 2/3 the price of my Ripmo.

If Ibis came out with a carbon ebike I might have spend a ton more money for a bike that I didn't need. If they come out with a aluminum Ripmo AF ebike maybe.

 

[TulahRipster]

Late to this thread, but my 2 cents; love my Ripley V4 for Bay Area and NorCal and thought maybe get an ebike in 2-3 yrs (hoping Ibis would make by then) when I turn 70… Then rather impulsively picked up a Rise in Oct at lbs as they were selling out quickly and with supply chain issues figured I had to jump on it… Less than a month later had a freak, potentially life threatening injury ( yes mtn biking!). The Rise has been my saving grace as I used it to rehab and now back to 100% preinjury fitness/ability. Still love and ride the Ripley with no plans to give it up. I ride with friend with full fat, but I prefer the “lightness”( 40 lbs) of the Rise as I like to play rather than plow and haven’t found wanting for more power. On same rides we seem to drain our batteries at similar rates, tho 2 caveats: his total weight (body/gear/bike) is 70lbs more & I can & do turn off motor on flats and descents where he can’t…
And back to OP’s wondering about Rise’s single pivot design, i find it plenty supportive and progressive, Ymmv.
But if/when Ibis does come out with an E, I’ll be in line!

 

[madamfunk]

If they make one, I hope its something like the Rise which I've been enjoying, other than the terrible terrible dealer support. Ibis please don't make a fullsize 45-50lb ebike.

 

[norcalbike]

If they make one, I hope its something like the Rise which I've been enjoying, other than the terrible terrible dealer support. Ibis please don't make a fullsize 45-50lb ebike.

Aren’t even the Kenevo SL bikes like 45 lbs? I could only see myself buying an emtb for self shuttling purposes, so waiting for the tech to progress a bit more.

 

[michaelandk2]

more like 38-40 if getting the fancier models I believe. However I'm still with ya on the full ebikes being what I would choose. If your going to add stuff to fail, add cost, add in the little nuances of ebikes (for example, how quickly torque is applied vs in a standard bike) go all in ^^.