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Well it was hot so in lieu of Coe there was another Skeggs ride, on Saturday. This followed Mr Crash's Descender's Delight route, with some minor tweak (added a bit of South Leaf) and addition of a Perimeter ride. Some pics:

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Steam Donkey (trail, not the rider)
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ratpick's run on the Manzanita Wall
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mudworm in eager anticipation of the Root
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mudworm, too fast to get caught
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Skyline35, happy not to be in all photos!
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This was a tough but fun ride. Thanks to mudworm for being our route planner and guide!

At the end of Descender's Delight, I tried to bribe ElHombre with an exotic New Zealand black beer but he was resolute and didn't join us for a final perimeter loop. All up we managed a 38 miles/7000' ride in Skeggs, which is easily my longest ride there.

I really like the Descender's Delight route - it definitely makes the most of the best downhill singletrack in the preserve. We didn't cover every trail in Skeggs, but not too far from it:

https://connect.garmin.com:80/activity/embed/50518059

ElHombre kept the pedal to the metal so he and I were often waiting, paparazzi style, at the top/bottom of climbs/descents and thus our sweeper had a very photographic ride!



Much analysis was done of the Resolution root

On this day, reaching the top of the ECdM Ck trail at the end of the Descender's Delight route was very welcome, as you can see by the smile on mudworm's face!


But that same smile was long gone by the top of the 1000'/2.5 mile Lawrence Creek climb!

 

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Hmmm... Let me just be crystal clear

The route was MrCrash's idea. After I rode it with a very minor modification (included the whole of Crosscut) last Sunday, I named it Descender's Delight Ride (here is why). But it was an extremely drizzly and overcast day so my GPS lost satellite reception a few times on the ride. The track came out looking jaggy. I had to do it again just to get the track right!

Probably not many people would go "Hmmm... that sounds like a great idea" when they hear my proposal:
1. Descender's Delight ride (~20 miles)
2. Replenish at the car ...
3. Perimeter ride clockwise: Sierra Morena, Whole Steam Donkey, Blue Blossom or Spring Board, Lawrence, V Mill, S+N Leaves, ECdM) (est. ~14 mi)
4. Replenish at the car, and if time and energy allows...
5. Perimeter ride CCW: ECdM, N+S Leaves, V Mill, Lawrence, BB, Crosscut, Gordon Mill, Sierra Morena, est. ~13mi)

But some how it attracted ratpick, Skyline35, and ElHombre who brought his friend Tom. Fun chats and laughs were scattered all over Skeggs, but we did end up loosing people one by one through out the ride. When ratpick and I finished the first perimeter ride (CCW), we didn't have enough day light to go for the other one.

Today, between chores and errands, I managed to squeeze a quick ride in at Skeggs, and the route is no other than the clockwise perimeter ride. Whew, mission accomplished.

(Full report for this weekend's ride.)

Actually, what was accomplished was more than just that ride (or even those rides) -- it was also a silly project of mine. Click on the following images to see my project. (And go ahead and laugh...)











ratpick said:
But that same smile was long gone by the top of the 1000'/2.5 mile Lawrence Creek climb!
Oh yeah, I got my revenge today -- I went down it!!!
 

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Did anyone else look at the Garmin route map and grimace in pain? ;)

You guys are troopers. I like how you named it "Descender's Delight" - all happy and light hearted. Looking at numbers, I'd think more along the lines of "Peninsula Punisher / El Corte de Masochism / Skeggs Sufferfest". Looks like it was an incredible ride!
 

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MrCrash, thanks for coming up with the excellent idea!

BTW, Descender's Delight Ride does not include that perimeter ride. Just to be clear, I separated the two back-to-back rides on my GPS. This is our version (including the new connector on the S. Leaf too, hence Plus):
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The perimeter ride was a whole new ride and there were definitely moments of punishment on that one (regardless the direction).
 

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ratpick said:
38 miles/7000' ride in Skeggs, which is easily my longest ride there.

I really like the Descender's Delight route - it definitely makes the most of the best downhill singletrack in the preserve. We didn't cover every trail in Skeggs, but not too far from it:

<iframe width='465' height='548' frameborder='0' src='http://connect.garmin.com:80/activity/embed/50518059'></iframe>
Holy crap. Might be easier to just mark the trails that you DIDN'T ride :p
 

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38 miles and only 5 hours? ummm... I'd have to start at 6am...
5 hrs was moving time only. We went at a fairly relaxed pace and didn't rush to leave regroups (so much analysis of the route to be talked through :)

When mudworm first proposed this, I jokingly suggested a 6am start-time if we had any chance I'd completing it! Actually, I was almost right :)
 

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MrCrash said:
Did anyone else look at the Garmin route map and grimace in pain?

You guys are troopers. I like how you named it "Descender's Delight" - all happy and light
hearted. Looking at numbers, I'd think more along the lines of "Peninsula Punisher / El
Corte de Masochism / Skeggs Sufferfest".
Climbing out of Virginia Mill/Lawence Creek, I bonked big time, like Plim-bonked! Ugh.
I exited CMØ6 and rode the roads back. But still, the company was great and I had a
good time until heat and fatigue got the better of me.

Temps from the nearby La Honda weather station:





Tom (the other half of mtbguru.com) gushing about ElHombre's Salsa:





On the Manzanita 180º: ratpick, ElHombre, and Ms Skeggs 2010:









mudworm said:
Actually, what was accomplished was more than just that ride (or even those rides) -- it
was also a silly project of mine. Click on the following images to see my project. (And go
ahead and laugh...)
Hmmmmmm, you could add this one!
https://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=3889576&postcount=2



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This weekend was yet another Skeggs » Half Moon Bay for me but this time it was on
separate days. ratpick and his wife Brenda joined Anne-Marie and I on a very casual
HMB ride:













///Charlie
 

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Skyline35 said:
Climbing out of Virginia Mill/Lawence Creek, I bonked big time, like Plim-bonked!
You knew Charlie was on the verge of bonking when he constantly and attentively asked "Is your contact lens still okay (and you don't need to stop and roll your eyes for a while)? You sure your chain is fine and you don't need to fiddle with it?" He must be missing the break he got when I spent almost 10 minutes dealing with a dried up contact lens. Ratpick's bike was not as considerate though as its chain got itself out of the "suck" situation a bit too fast before Charlie even got a chance to sit down.

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Tom (the other half of mtbguru.com)
I'd like to claim the credit that now the Search results on mtbguru.com show the distance and ascent stats. The duo got an earful from me on the ride.

Skyline35 said:
I have to take a closer look at the route when I get home tonight, but "45 miles and 9.7Kft" sounds great!

Skyline35 said:
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So pretty!!! I get mesmerized by staring at it.

Skyline35 said:
a very casual HMB ride
And beautiful too!

ratpick said:
When mudworm first proposed this, I jokingly suggested a 6am start-time if we had any chance I'd completing it! Actually, I was almost right :)
I forgot how much guys can talk! Everytime I had to get my whip out to get everyone moving again. Yeah, that's the thing about Skeggs -- there are so many intersections for regrouping. If you find a track with moving time, make sure you budget in stop time as well if you are riding with a group esp if there are fun guys in the group.
 

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Nice relaxing, cool ride yesterday!

My wife enjoying the non-technical aspect of the bluff trails :)

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OT: $50 for a whole frozen tuna right from the boat.. good deal!

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Playing around on the slightly hillier trails near the golf ball
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There was a steepish, technical track headed down from an antenna so I gave it a go (fun - click for video)
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Really nice day on the coast - beaches were busy
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PS: I think I've convinced myself to go back to Skeggs and do mudworm's CW loop today!
 

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Hah! I forgot about that one. :p


And then there was the time I just sat down on Bear Mountain and couldn't move. I think it was about a half hour later Charlie came back to find me. At least there were no pics that time.
 

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Plim-bonk

Plim-bonk, as anyone in sports medicine knows, is the most extreme level of bonking.
 

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mudworm said:
Oh yeah, I got my revenge today -- I went down it!!!
I put my revenge off for an extra day but got it today. That CW perimeter loop is quite interesting - the climb up Spring Board is one that I've never done before. The descent down Lawrence Creek is so nice; just like the climb it feels like it is never going to end!

The feature of doing the loop in this direction is that after Lawrence Creek, you are climbing pretty much all the way to the end, albeit at a more comfortable grade than up Lawrence Creek.

So, once I was done with the loop, I decided to have fun on Manzanita, Cross Cut, Giant Salamander and Resolution. As I climbed Methuselah, it entered my mind to give climbing Fir from the very bottom a go. A quick systems check said I wasn't too tired to give it a decent go, so up I went! For Coe riders, it's actually not that bad at all; which is to say, it is damn steep but no steeper than (say) Serpentine and every steep part has an "easy" 10-12% step after it where you can get your breath back.

I was able to clean all to the rocky wall that ElHombre and I balked at on Saturday. I got halfway up that wall before walking about 15 feet of it; cleaned the rest. I think it actually is cleanable on the right (uphill) side - since it's so close to Resolution, I might session it one day and see :) The profile reveals the gory details:

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(notice there is a good flat section just before the rocky wall)


A tree had fallen down over the Sierra Morena trail, just past CM-02 where the trail splits for a bit. I saw rangers at Skeggs Point when I was done so reported it to them. Interestingly, they were there to clean out a wasp nest that apparently was in the trash can where we spent a whole hour eating our lunch on Saturday!! I was skeptical, but I didn't hang around to find out!

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mudworm said:
Pffft, yeah right. Like that took any convincing at all.
Erik got confused and thought I had done some convincing. I said no... See, if a ride sounds interesting, I know ratpick would not wait long before he gets out and bags it. Not to mention an "unfinished" ride like this. I betcha that extra you did today (including climbing Fir) did not take any self-convincing either.

I forgot to mention earlier that when I sent out the invitation for my 3-part ride, both Skyline35 and ratpick were already planning to do the Descender's Delight ride, which I posted from the weekend before on Plus3 and MTBguru.

spartan23 said:
my buddy and I ran into your group last saturday (corner of Methuselah and Manzanita) :).
In that case, you can't be the group we ran into on South Leaf among whom one rider clipped a tree and slid down the steep soft/sandy bank like 50 feet. He didn't look injured, but climbing back up with the bike had to be a lot of work. (We didn't stop to watch.)

I now look forward to that Everything Skeggs since there are still a few trails I have not touched at Skeggs including this lower section of Fir.
 

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Erik got confused and thought I had done some convincing. I said no... See, if a ride sounds interesting, I know ratpick would not wait long before he gets out and bags it. Not to mention an "unfinished" ride like this. I betcha that extra you did today (including climbing Fir) did not take any self-convincing either.
None whatsoever - just the mere mention of something tough is enough to get me interested!

mudworm said:
I now look forward to that Everything Skeggs since there are still a few trails I have not touched at Skeggs including this lower section of Fir.
Yeah.. already trying to figure out when to attack this route.. looks delicious!
 
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