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I am wondering if anyone else has this experience. If I do very much hillclimbing on my geared bike my back will hurt for the next week. But even if my back is stiff before riding I can still get a good SS ride in and often it helps with the stiffness. There is something about sitting and spinning with a low range gear that does not agree with my back.
 

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Hydration: seems like a no-brainer but lots of folks just don't drink enough.
Stretching: get a foam roller and an exercise ball.
Strengthen: core, core, core. Not just crunches but moves such as plank, and maybe a few yoga poses...
 

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All great advice, thanks. I workout at a gym (mostly weights) 4 times a week, but I do neglect stretching and should bump up the core work (I do a lot of push-ups, which I think helps the core). When the stiffness sets in I often over stretch and make matters worse. It is strange to me that single speed is easier on my back.
 

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I get the same results (long time back issues here) I think the stand up of SSing helps stretch it out a bit by not being locked into a seated position and using a longer range of the core muscles.
 

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You might need to look at the fit on your geared bike. Also, more core strength always helps. I'm not surprised riding your SS helps. You use different muscles than the ones you use strictly seated.
 

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^ this, too.

Check the setup on both bikes. Though, as has been mentioned, we tend to ride a bit differently on the SS (standing vs. sitting), a funky body position may be adding to the issue.

When you say that you "over stretch" what do you mean? Do you focus on one area more than another? Are you stretching to the point of causing pain?

You may already know this but tightness in the legs can cause the pelvis to tilt and this then can be the cause of some back pain. So if you have a regular leg routine at the gym and you're riding, too, but not strengthening the core muscles, stuff can tend to get out of balance.
 

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Same here.

I ride the holy heck ot of my SS, and when I do a long "sit and spin" on a geared bike, my back gets sore after a few hours.


And yes, I hydrate, do yoga, core, etc etc etc...I take good care of me :)


I think that (this applies to me) on my geared bike, I get into that "grind", especially on looooooooong climbs, and don't realize how long I've been grinding away without ever really changing my body position...the SS forces me to do that :thumbsup:



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I get the same results (long time back issues here) I think the stand up of SSing helps stretch it out a bit by not being locked into a seated position and using a longer range of the core muscles.
+1. Do you ride road at all? Road riding (with gears) necessarily involves a lot of sitting and spinning. I think it's just a matter of not having those muscles conditioned. Climbing (seated) is a bear on the lower back. You can help yourself out on the geared bike by making sure you stand periodically during extended climbs.

I would bet that if you alternately rode SS and gears, you'd whip those sore muscles into shape and probably help your SS riding too by allowing yourself to stay seated longer.

Just my opinion. (I ride geared road, fixie road, and SS MTB and have occasional sore lower back). Core fitness always helps too, as others have mentioned.

Good luck!
 

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When I haven't ridden my road bike in a while and I hit the steep climbs I'll get discomfort in my lower lumbar area, but it goes away when the climb is over. Eventually I'll get strong enough again so I can mix up some standing and sitting which helps. I don't have this problem on my mtb's, as stated above maybe your fit is off.
 

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I have the same problem in my lower back since taking up mtn biking. My back gets tight and sore on spinning climbs or climbing while seated.
One of the best things to help with this condition is using a very hard foam roll. Roll your back after a hard ride throughout the day. You will be amazed with the relief.

I've tried everything mentioned and even more based on my research. I figure it's something many of use have to live with so try and make it less of a nusance.

Mojo
 

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Does your geared bike have rear suspension? Maybe you're in the saddle too much, on the S.S. you probably stand up more and use your legs for suspension.
 

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sometimes the lower back suffers w/ pain from too many cervezas..:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
 

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Work on your abdominal strength. The stronger it is, the more support your back gets. :thumbsup:
 

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It's quite likely that you've got something going on with any of the following:

your Sacro-Illiac joints/Hamstrings/Paraspinal muscles.

A good sports medicine manual medical specialist should be able to provide considerable insight and/or help.
 

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But even if my back is stiff before riding I can still get a good SS ride in and often it helps with the stiffness. There is something about sitting and spinning with a low range gear that does not agree with my back.
I've experienced the exact same thing...so I got rid of my geared bike and now just ride two SS bikes, built to exact same cockpit with different gearing options for the hill climbs. I too found that sitting and spinning/grinding out the climbs tired my back more than standing/climbing on my SS.

It wasn't due to the stretching, core work, etc. I'm very diligent about prehab/rehab movement and strengthening exercises, which I do 5-6 days per week and lift with good form 3 days per week and cross train with running and MMA. And yes, I've been to my sports med PT and chiro who are both very athletic sports guys and get what I'm doing, etc. and got all that dialed in. My chiro/soft tissue doc thought it was due to standing vs. sitting.

And its not due to the fit: both my gear and SS bikes were identical geos (both Vassagos - Bandersnatch geared vs. Jabberwocky SS).

The only difference was sitting/grinding out the long climb vs. standing/climbing. I'm definitely fresher and less sore after riding my SS.
 

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I have multiple back issues and degenerative disc disease.

I do an hour of PT every day and have done so for more than 3 years.

SS is no problem as long as I'm smart about it and careful with bike setup. I tried a 1 x 9 for 2 rides. The pain was intense. I found that any seated grinding caused lots of pain.

When I'm seated on the SS, I'm spinning with little effort or strain. I'm simply maintaining momentum. When effort is needed I stand and have no problems.
 

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I have a similar issue with my geared bike. When I sit and spin on climbs i will get what almost feels like cramping/numbness in my lower back. As soon as i finish the climb or stand up the pain disappears. and it is nothing that hurts after the ride is over. It doesn't happen right away either. The longer (usually will start after 1 hour) and more climbing in the ride the worse it will get. I though it was cokpit setup so I have tried shorter stems, longer stems, differnt sized bars, playing with the seat and seat post height but the feeling is always there.
 

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+1 for check your geared bike's fit.

I have all kinds of lower back issues (degenerative disc disease, vertebral rounding deformity and an occasional slipping disc). Sit and spin doesn't bother me. My dual suspension bike causes me no pain for 20-40 mile trail rides and my hard tail causes me mild pain which I attribute to less shock absorption. I haven't tried SS (no need to for the terrain in my area since I ride past a lot of them walking their bikes :D).
 

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Same issue for me, on my geared HT I get more back pain then my rigid SS which I ride most of the time. Seems like it doesn't make sense but on SS you are standing more in the high torque situations and your back is in a more natural position.
 
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