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YETI_Chris
How do Shwable Nobby Nic's hold up around here. They are OEMS on the 575 but i wont know how good or bad they are till i get the bike right before WP/Keystone opens for riding and want to know if i need to change them right away?

Sorry for another tire Thread

I have always used panaracer and Klein Tires !!!
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i ride 2.5 (maxxis) high rollers on my 303 and 2.35 (kenda) nevegals (tubeless) on the 575... i've enjoyed both of them so far the nevegals seem to have a nice longevity and decent grip for me and i rode it almost 1/2 the season at trestle.. :) (kind of an answer) //g
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Bottom line: they're great, no need to swap. You'll probably be stoked on them at WP, grip is great, especially with a little bit of loose over hard or loose/damp dirt.

I've been on the Nobby Nics for about a year now. The overall performance is great- they grip better than I expected, and still roll quick. For longevity, the standard carcass is light, but doesn't have lots of rock scrape protection. If you don't scrape up your sidewalls, you'll be ok, but if you scrape sidewalls or just want more protection, opt for Snake Skin or Double Defense in the future.
The OEM version is the "Performance" line, which isn't tubeless ready, and doesn't have the triple compound, but even that one still works very well (my wife has those on her '11 ASR5)
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lidarman
Not sure about the Nicks, but I have a Schwalbe Big Betty on front and it seems to last fo-evar and hooks up on the corners like velcro.

I'm definitely a Schwalbe fan for performance-- but not price.
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jrabikerepair
Schwalbe Nobby Nic's perform excellently on the terrain we have here on the front range. The 2011 tires have an upgraded tread pattern that seems to work slightly better than past models. If you are riding rocky stuff, go for the EVO or Snakeskin models, they really help against sidewall abrasion.
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TX_Shifter
Chris - send them to me, I will trade you them for a wonderful combo set of Panaracer Dart & Smoke tries. Which you highly enjoyed using in the past.
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jrabikerepair
My mistake, I overlooked your type of riding...
For FR/DH, look into the Schwalbe Fat Alberts. Better for that sort of riding. Nobby Nic's are oriented towards XC/Trail type riders and may not hold up to keystone type terrain...
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MK_
My experience with Nobby Nics hasn't been as favorable.

They're fantastic tires when it's relatively dry (not too dry) and not too rocky. If you aren't a particularly aggressive rider and are mindful of the trail obstacles, they'll probably last you a while; I found the sidewalls to not hold up very long for me.

Like all Schwalbe tires, the tread wears rapidly.

_MK
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wilsonblur
Klein_Christopher said:
How do Shwable Nobby Nic's hold up around here. They are OEMS on the 575 but i wont know how good or bad they are till i get the bike right before WP/Keystone opens for riding and want to know if i need to change them right away?

Sorry for another tire Thread

I have always used panaracer and Klein Tires !!!
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I have loved Schwalbe tires. Don't listen to all the dribble about them being just for lame riders who don't do challenging things. I have taken mine to WP and ridden plenty of rocky things with them. How often do you plan to go to WP? Mostly because if you're riding it regularly with a 575 your whole bike may be a little over matched. An ASR-7 might be more what you need. They are trail oriented and work fine. If you are going to hit the WP every week you may want to go with a Maxxis or something downhill oriented. Run them till they wear out or sell them, there's a pretty good market for them. I sold a pair I rode all summer for $50. They wear just like Nevegal's or any other tires with decent grip. I've had great fortune with the Snakeskin sidewalls. I have noticed they're like the Lakers though, you hate'm or love'm.
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YETI_Chris
TX_Shifter said:
Chris - send them to me, I will trade you them for a wonderful combo set of Panaracer Dart & Smoke tries. Which you highly enjoyed using in the past.
;)
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I have a set of them still going on my wifes bike sorry Bro :thumbsup:
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wilsonblur said:
I have loved Schwalbe tires. Don't listen to all the dribble about them being just for lame riders who don't do challenging things. I have taken mine to WP and ridden plenty of rocky things with them. How often do you plan to go to WP? Mostly because if you're riding it regularly with a 575 your whole bike may be a little over matched. An ASR-7 might be more what you need. They are trail oriented and work fine. If you are going to hit the WP every week you may want to go with a Maxxis or something downhill oriented. Run them till they wear out or sell them, there's a pretty good market for them. I sold a pair I rode all summer for $50. They wear just like Nevegal's or any other tires with decent grip. I've had great fortune with the Snakeskin sidewalls. I have noticed they're like the Lakers though, you hate'm or love'm.[/QUOTE

Thanks for the replay I will be going up to WP but not every weekend for sure maybe every other Sat but time will tell and if gas go's to $4.00 then alot less for sure.
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Klein_Christopher said:
wilsonblur said:
I have loved Schwalbe tires. Don't listen to all the dribble about them being just for lame riders who don't do challenging things. I have taken mine to WP and ridden plenty of rocky things with them. How often do you plan to go to WP? Mostly because if you're riding it regularly with a 575 your whole bike may be a little over matched. An ASR-7 might be more what you need. They are trail oriented and work fine. If you are going to hit the WP every week you may want to go with a Maxxis or something downhill oriented. Run them till they wear out or sell them, there's a pretty good market for them. I sold a pair I rode all summer for $50. They wear just like Nevegal's or any other tires with decent grip. I've had great fortune with the Snakeskin sidewalls. I have noticed they're like the Lakers though, you hate'm or love'm.[/QUOTE

Thanks for the replay I will be going up to WP but not every weekend for sure maybe every other Sat but time will tell and if gas go's to $4.00 then alot less for sure.
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Give them a try and if you hate them sell them to someone here in this thread. :thumbsup:
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wilsonblur said:
I have loved Schwalbe tires. Don't listen to all the dribble about them being just for lame riders who don't do challenging things. I have taken mine to WP and ridden plenty of rocky things with them. How often do you plan to go to WP? Mostly because if you're riding it regularly with a 575 your whole bike may be a little over matched. An ASR-7 might be more what you need. They are trail oriented and work fine. If you are going to hit the WP every week you may want to go with a Maxxis or something downhill oriented
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What's this nonsense about Schwalbe tires being for lame riders and Maxxis tires being for downhill? Both companies make tires for both applications. :confused:

_MK
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I was kind of disappointed in the tread life of my Fat Alberts and Nics on my 575. The Alberts (front & rear specific) triple nano compound lasted about a month and a half on the usual JeffCo, BoCo trails. Nics lasted longer, rolled fast and gripped. You will probably like them on Front Range trails. I switched over to big, fat 2.4 Big Bettys on the front for a few tire life spans and those things rock. It goes where you point it and you will love it at WP. My latest front is the 2.4 Conti Rubber Queen. Very similar to the Big Betty's but the black chili compound is way better - i.e grips rocks better, tread life is amazing, a little less expensive, etc. If I can run two sets of tires based on conditions I like Nics for every day Front Range (light, fast, decent grip) and Big Betty/ Rubber Queens for gnarlier stuff (point and shoot, cornering hook up, huge volume). I have that same dilemma right now. Do I stick with 2.4 RQ Front/ 2.2 RQ back or Nics when the weather gets nice this summer? With the rate my 2.4 RQ is going on the front I won't need a new one until summer of 2012. I'll just pick up a 2.2 RQ for the rear when my current rear (Maxxis High Roller 'cause it was brand new and RQ 2.2 was BO'd ) wears out.
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In my experience, new tires usually are better than worn out ones. That said, the only Schwalbes I have are Table Tops... and they do well at GBP.
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wilsonblur
MK_ said:
What's this nonsense about Schwalbe tires being for lame riders and Maxxis tires being for downhill? Both companies make tires for both applications. :confused:

_MK
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MK_ said:
My experience with Nobby Nics hasn't been as favorable.

They're fantastic tires when it's relatively dry (not too dry) and not too rocky. If you aren't a particularly aggressive rider and are mindful of the trail obstacles, they'll probably last you a while; I found the sidewalls to not hold up very long for me.

Like all Schwalbe tires, the tread wears rapidly.

_MK
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Aren't you the one who said they were only for guys who weren't aggressive and trails that weren't too rocky. I think you missed my point, which was that you can hit WP and rocky trails and ride aggressively with the Nobby Nics. Mine were 2.4's with the Snakeskin side walls and I had no issues with them all year till I got some glass in them at the Zorro parking lot on the way up to Dakota.

I was not classifying either company in one discipline or the other. I meant to put in Minions or High Rollers if he's going to hit the park every weekend because they are way cheaper than the $80 per tire price for Schwalbe's and have the right sidewall strength for DH and park runs. DH tires from either company will work if he's going to run every weekend. If he's just hitting WP twice a month the Nobby Nic's will be fine and will be better suited to the rest of the front range riding. Why ditch perfectly good tires?
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lidarman
I respect words by MK_
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wilsonblur
lidarman said:
I respect words by MK_
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Aren't you the one who said they were only for guys who weren't aggressive and trails that weren't too rocky?
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I wasn't throwing a blanket statement over all Schwalbe tires; just the Nobby Nics. They're good lightweight XC tires for intermediate terrain (like a Racing Ralph with a slightly taller tread), and that's that. They're definitely NOT DH tires for resorts or aggressive riders and in my experience they didn't last more than a few weeks before the sidewalls were toast.

If you're referring to my statement that Schwalbe rubber compound is quick wearing, that's definitely the case. Another strike against Schwalbe is that the rubber they use loses all it's grip over rocks and roots (even sandstone!) when there's any moisture on it.

Generally speaking, Schwalbe tires are great if you don't mind paying premium in a sense that you buy a lot more tires during a season than say with Continental Black Chili. There are great tires in the lineup, but the Nobby Nic is not an all rounder like you say.

_MK
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MK_ said:
If you're referring to my statement that Schwalbe rubber compound is quick wearing, that's definitely the case. Another strike against Schwalbe is that the rubber they use loses all it's grip over rocks and roots (even sandstone!) when there's any moisture on it.
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What rubber compounds have you tried from Schwalbe? I tend to agree with you on their Gooey Gluey compound, but I have found their Triple Nano and the new PaceStar compounds to be much improved longevity with only a slight difference in overall grip.

I have a lot of tires, and Schwalbe tires are definitely some of my favorites. I've also recently been riding a lot of Maxxis tires too, and they definitely have some great tires and can be found for significantly less than Schwalbe tires.
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