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shredded Ralph, now what?

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Last night's ride was great except something reached up and bit my front tire. Tubeless brew of stan's and Slime didn't seem to work, although all of the stans was dried up when I took the tire off today. Can I repair this, or am I in the market for a new $75 tire?

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I think a tube patch and superglue would hold that together. I would do it from the inside and see if it holds air once the superglue dries. If it doesn't work then you haven't lost anything except some superglue and time. I have never tried it but heard it works good for sidewall holes.
Did you try the superglue method mentioned? I have 20 miles on a brand new tire that has a cut that looks similar to yours. I'd be very interested to hear the result and what you used.
jparman said:
Did you try the superglue method mentioned? I have 20 miles on a brand new tire that has a cut that looks similar to yours. I'd be very interested to hear the result and what you used.
A casing tear like the above is FAR beyond using super glue to repair.
really? 120 tpi and I have two that are broken. I know some tires go as low as 60 tpi in the casing... seems since I am still 58 threads better than the cheap tires I should still be OK. or am I looking at it the wrong way....?






















































LOL!!!! I am having a hard time throwing away what looks to be a perfectly good and nearly new tire... ugh!
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jparman said:
really? 120 tpi and I have two that are broken. I know some tires go as low as 60 tpi in the casing... seems since I am still 58 threads better than the cheap tires I should still be OK. or am I looking at it the wrong way....?

LOL!!!! I am having a hard time throwing away what looks to be a perfectly good and nearly new tire... ugh!
If you only have two broken treads it will not look anything like the pic above.

You do not understand tire construction. Any cut/tear compromises the integrity of the tire.

So you have a roof covered with 120 shingles and another covered with 60 shingles.
Two blow off the first roof leaving holes.
Which roof keeps the rain out, the one with 118 shingles and 2 holes, or the one with 60 shingles and no holes?
shiggy said:
You do not understand tire construction.
No, I don't understand how to inflect sarcasm. I thought the giant space and the LOL were enough but apparently not. I've seen people rip phone books in half - I assume a failure like this would work much the same way...
jparman said:
No, I don't understand how to inflect sarcasm. I thought the giant space and the LOL were enough but apparently not. I've seen people rip phone books in half - I assume a failure like this would work much the same way...
The giant space is just annoying.
shiggy said:
The giant space is just annoying.
I can think of some other things as well.
Sew the hole with fishing line and a needle, then cover it on the inside with a boot (inner tube patches glued on work). The fishing line takes the place of the cut casing threads for the sidewall support, and the patch solves the air leak. I've had to do this to two RRs so far with casing slices.
DeeEight said:
Sew the hole with fishing line and a needle
How many pound test. Should I use mono or should I get some flouro?
I had a slice in the tread area of a WTB Mutano that would not hold air with Stan's. I cleaned up the tire and applied loctite ultra gel superglue to the cut. Then I cut a piece off an old tube for a patch, slathered it with superglue and placed over the cut. Reinstalled the tire with Stan's and have run a few hundred miles on it with no issues. Not sure if it would work as well on the sidewall but what do you have to lose?
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Sewing the cut with some nylon thread, then gluing a big fiber reinforced rubber patch (cut from an old tire's sidewall) to the inner surface with some good waterproof elastic glue (not a CA glue!) worked fine for me when I cut my Michelin WildGripr's sidewall. I also applied some glue to the external side of the seam to protect the thread and seam from water and dust.

Of course I wouldn't have bothered if the tire had already been worn enough, but it was almost new, so I decided to try to repair it.
So far it's been good for a couple hundred miles, still tubeless with Stan's. No deformations, bulges, etc.

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The second one went today. All told there is less than 40 miles on these 'brand new' pacestar tires... this is wisconsin, what gives. I am going to try the patch method since I just can't see throwing away $120 in tires...
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