Also if you switch pads or pad type should you change the rotor also, due to different materials bedded into the rotor from previous pads?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Shorter stop: G2 RSC move to CODE RSC, OR add 20mm of rotor/180 to 200mm? 2017 Guide RSC now, G2 much better?
I think the pad compound is different now vs 2017, metallic? Is it the SRAM POWER pads that come OEM in G2 now? Is the POWER a combo of organic and sintered/metallic?
clear pad winner today for G2 stop distance? MTX/GALFER/EBC/OEM SRAM models or some other brand and model?
The way I understand it Increasing 20mm in rotor =longer lever compared to distance from hub, does, decrease stopping distance/increase power.
Thank you.
clear pad winner today for G2 stop distance? MTX/GALFER/EBC/OEM SRAM models or some other brand and model?
The way I understand it Increasing 20mm in rotor =longer lever compared to distance from hub, does, decrease stopping distance/increase power.
Thank you.
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For the same pads, increasing the rotor diameter increase the braking power for the same pressure at the lever (the limit being the tire grip) and also decrease the functioning temperature.
Metallic pads tend to resist the heat better, actually they transfer the heat to the caliper and bite stronger when warm. They might be more noisy and need to reach a certain temperature to have the maximum performance.
Organic pads have a strong initial bite when cold but fade faster when becoming hot. They are silent but don't last long in wet/mud conditions.
In the end it depends on your riding conditions, if you are gravity oriented big discs and metallic pads might be the best choice but for instance I swap to organic pads for all mountain in winter unless it is very wet.
No need to change the discs if you change the pad compound, just clean the discs really well with something like isopropyl alcool and if you want to be perfectionist you can even send them very lightly with fine sandpaper (>1000 or so)
With the same disc and same pad I suspect the code RSC to have more power than the G2.
And don't underestimate the effect of a good bleeding and a proper bed-in process, pretty sure a properly bled G2 will work better than a RSC without maintenance.
Metallic pads tend to resist the heat better, actually they transfer the heat to the caliper and bite stronger when warm. They might be more noisy and need to reach a certain temperature to have the maximum performance.
Organic pads have a strong initial bite when cold but fade faster when becoming hot. They are silent but don't last long in wet/mud conditions.
In the end it depends on your riding conditions, if you are gravity oriented big discs and metallic pads might be the best choice but for instance I swap to organic pads for all mountain in winter unless it is very wet.
No need to change the discs if you change the pad compound, just clean the discs really well with something like isopropyl alcool and if you want to be perfectionist you can even send them very lightly with fine sandpaper (>1000 or so)
With the same disc and same pad I suspect the code RSC to have more power than the G2.
And don't underestimate the effect of a good bleeding and a proper bed-in process, pretty sure a properly bled G2 will work better than a RSC without maintenance.
I used and always use automotive brake cleaner and wet 1000 grit sand paper, the black or dark grey if I remember last time.For the same pads, increasing the rotor diameter increase the braking power for the same pressure at the lever (the limit being the tire grip) and also decrease the functioning temperature.
Metallic pads tend to resist the heat better, actually they transfer the heat to the caliper and bite stronger when warm. They might be more noisy and need to reach a certain temperature to have the maximum performance.
Organic pads have a strong initial bite when cold but fade faster when becoming hot. They are silent but don't last long in wet/mud conditions.
In the end it depends on your riding conditions, if you are gravity oriented big discs and metallic pads might be the best choice but for instance I swap to organic pads for all mountain in winter unless it is very wet.
No need to change the discs if you change the pad compound, just clean the discs really well with something like isopropyl alcool and if you want to be perfectionist you can even send them very lightly with fine sandpaper (>1000 or so)
With the same disc and same pad I suspect the code RSC to have more power than the G2.
And don't underestimate the effect of a good bleeding, pretty sure a properly bled G2 will work better than a RSC without maintenance.
experince with the new SRAM POWER PADS?
I'm not sure what you're asking but if you're spending the money to upgrade from Guides just skip the G2 and go with Code RSC. G2's are fine but Codes have a lot more power.
I have tried the trickstuff POWER pads on my Code RSC. The power increase is real but they lasted me 4 days in the Alps so I went back to the classic metallic pads.I used and always use automotive brake cleaner and wet 1000 grit sand paper, the black or dark grey if I remember last time.
experince with the new SRAM POWER PADS?
I have 2017 guide RSC on 180mm rotors now and they are just meh/not great.
New bike is coming with G2 RSC And 180mm rotors.
So is the new G2 and whatever OEM pads noticeably better than my 2017 Guides with new sintered SRAM pads?
i have a 200mm rotor to put up front. Is the 200mm rotor a better upgrade than G2 to CODES?
Wondering if I should have them change to CODE RSC, and save some money vs possibly decide later to chang, and pay full price later for CODES.
THANK YO.
New bike is coming with G2 RSC And 180mm rotors.
So is the new G2 and whatever OEM pads noticeably better than my 2017 Guides with new sintered SRAM pads?
i have a 200mm rotor to put up front. Is the 200mm rotor a better upgrade than G2 to CODES?
Wondering if I should have them change to CODE RSC, and save some money vs possibly decide later to chang, and pay full price later for CODES.
THANK YO.
There's a noticeable improvement from Guides to G2. Unless you're riding some actual DH/enduro race course type terrain I'd probably stick with the G2 but upgrade both rotors to 200mm.I have 2017 guide RSC on 180mm rotors now and they are just meh/not great.
New bike is coming with G2 RSC And 180mm rotors.
So is the new G2 and whatever OEM pads noticeably better than my 2017 Guides with new sintered SRAM pads?
i have a 200mm rotor to put up front. Is the 200mm rotor a better upgrade than G2 to CODES?
Wondering if I should have them change to CODE RSC, and save some money vs possibly decide later to chang, and pay full price later for CODES.
THANK YO.
Although it's advertised that organic have a strong initial bite, I've never found this to be true. I've found they work ok for rear brakes in some situations, in winter they squeal less, but in general I find them to be lacking in bite, whereas metallic/sintered pads on the same brake setup have that bite. Larger rotors are going to be better from many perspectives. There aren't many situations where I actually want organic pads.
Just my two cents. Both the Guide and newer G2 are what I would describe as barely adequate to adequate. The improvement in the G2 seems to be the pads and I have found the MTX Red pads to provide a mild upgrade (more fade resistance, longer life) over the G2 stock pads.
My son runs SRAM brakes, I am a Magura MT5 user. MT5s with 180mm rotors have more bite, better fade resistance, and much longer pad life than Guide/G2s with 200mm rotors. On extended downhill runs (i.e. 600+ vertical feet in less than 1 mile) I have never had any fade issues with the MT5s, but have with the G2s and larger rotors. I am 200 pounds and old and slow. My 160 pound, much faster, son has overheated them to the point of complete pad fade and blued rotors.
In the plus column, the SRAMs have a nice lever shape and really good feel and feedback with a ton of modulation. So all said, I would start with 200mm rotors front and rear with the G2, but consider stepping up to Codes which is the true solution.
My son runs SRAM brakes, I am a Magura MT5 user. MT5s with 180mm rotors have more bite, better fade resistance, and much longer pad life than Guide/G2s with 200mm rotors. On extended downhill runs (i.e. 600+ vertical feet in less than 1 mile) I have never had any fade issues with the MT5s, but have with the G2s and larger rotors. I am 200 pounds and old and slow. My 160 pound, much faster, son has overheated them to the point of complete pad fade and blued rotors.
In the plus column, the SRAMs have a nice lever shape and really good feel and feedback with a ton of modulation. So all said, I would start with 200mm rotors front and rear with the G2, but consider stepping up to Codes which is the true solution.
The g2s are just not very powerful ime.
My $.02…. All things being equal, I doubt there’s much difference between Guides, G2’s, and Codes when it comes to a single stop. Now if your constantly on the brakes hard, like downhill or park, the Codes are going to do better managing the heat and resisting fade.
The G2s kind of suck. Multiple bleeds and still weak. But I am limited to 180/160 rotors on a rigid 29+ SS and I weigh 230. If you are lighter and don’t have any big downs the G2s might work for you. I think they are XC/light trail brakes. The Codes are a different story. I have run Code/G2 or Saint/old XT before.
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Think about changing the rotors to the different manufacturer rotors. I don't like Sram's rotors.
I updated my to Evo Galfer 203mm rotors. They're also 2 mm thick. Even I had the old rotor 220 and now 203, I have better and more power. So, no need to upgrade brakes.
I updated my to Evo Galfer 203mm rotors. They're also 2 mm thick. Even I had the old rotor 220 and now 203, I have better and more power. So, no need to upgrade brakes.
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