[wolfman00]

hey, lately it seems my parker is becoming more of a porker. By adding the joplin, domain fork and thru-axle wheel, I am thinking of some places where I can trim some fat.

Areas I am looking at-

handlebars
stem
possible seatpost (might ditch the joplin)

I just ditched my mallets in favor of some mg-1s, saved about 200g that way, but thats not **** in the scope of things haha.

Any other places that might be good candidates to upgrade for weight?
Also, and recommendations on the stem/handlebars that are wide and light? (i am considering going wide to get the moto feel back)

thanks all,
-Matt

 

[Odin Bane]

one little way is to cut down your seat post. if you only use so much of it you can cut most of what you dont use off and save some weight. i did that on my xc bike

 

[el_chupo_]

What wheelset?
Tires?

 

[b-kul]

if you can get your parker to around 35 pounds with that fork you are doing good. go for lighter tires like rampages to shed some weight.

 

[One Pivot]

its designed for a 100-130mm fork, and you've got one of the heaviest 180mm forks on the market on it! time for a better match.

 

[b-kul]

its designed for a 100-130mm fork, and you've got one of the heaviest 180mm forks on the market on it! time for a better match.

around 100-140 idealy but up to 160 is ok.

 

[el_chupo_]

The 2008 Parker 1 is the only one that had a 130mm fork. All other iterations had a 160mm fork.

The Domain is a 160mm or 180mm fork, and I assume he has the 160mm, which is what came spec'd on the 08, 09, and 10 Parkers.

A heavy fork, yes. but the stock build on these is normally 36lbs or so.

to lose weight you could do a Pike, lighter wheels, and some tires like a Racing Ralph and probably drop 3-4lbs or more for about 600 bucks.

 

[Luigiugueto]

Lighter, air sprung fork. lighter wheels and tires (maybe tubeless). light crankset.

shaving weight in the handlebar, stem and seatpost will save you only a couple of grams.

remember, the lighter you go the more expensive it gets.

 

[wolfman00]

well, i just got the fork, so that is staying haha.

Man, I was doing some searching last night, and came up with some ideas as far as stem/bars go- I can save 250g+- on those, so that is about .5 a lb and that would cost about 170 bucks. Then I looked into the crankset...it seems any reasonably affordable/strong crankset is around 1000g w/ BB. Right now I am at 1240g due to having a downhill BB. ( I keep cooking them so I am hoping this one holds up better). So I could save roughly another 250-300g in the crankset, that would be around 200 bucks +-.
So for 1.5 lbs of savings, I would spend between 350-400 bucks.That is just bars, stem, and crankset. Wheelset/tires seems to be the biggest weight saver, but also the most expensive.

Honestly, after going through and looking at all this and going over numbers, costs, and with you all's suggestions... I might be better off just hitting some heavy squats for a few weeks and save the coin and upgrade to lighter components as stuff breaks (which is always does eventually).

What do you think? I think my plan is pretty good haha

Thanks all for the help.

 

[b-kul]

what tires do you have on there? potentaily you could shed 1 or 2 pounds for little money.

 

[Luigiugueto]

replace parts as they break is practically what we all do, I would get used to riding that heavy setup, you'll get stronger legs for when you replace your components with lighter ones youll be unstoppable lol :thumbsup:

 

[wolfman00]

I am still running the stock ignitors. Those are 775 grams.

 

[b-kul]

oh, then you really wouldnt feel a huge weight loss if you changed them (unless you ran silly light xc tires). but try a new front tire. throwing a panaracer rampager up there was a huge improvement over the stock ignitor for me.

 

[wolfman00]

I have a komodo also, and it weights around 30. (surprisingly light, just a trail build) I have been riding that and I can haul ass with it haha.

 

[el_chupo_]

What bar/stem do you have and what combo were you looking at?

You may be able to save 150-200g for 50 bucks on some slightly cheaper, slightly heavier stuff.

Also, a set of SLX cranks can be had for 130 bucks, and they are ~1000g.

So you could save about a pound for ~200 bucks.

A Small block 8 in 2.1 in the rear and something like a Racing Ralph 2.4 front would be under 600g each, so there is another 150g, should be about $100 to change that. But like Bkul said, a new tire may not lose weight, but may make a difference.

What wheels are on the bike?

Is this a custom build, or a factory build? If factory, what year and version?

 

[wolfman00]

Its a factory build, '08 parker 1 that has evolved in a short time (basically a stock parker 2 now). I have an XT shadow midcage rear de, an slx front de. FSA maximus cranks (same weight as stock), and an RF evolve DH BB. The bar and stem- .243 racing 20mm risers, and an easton vice 85mm stem.

The bars I was looking at were nukeproof, not sure the model but they were around 250-260 grams, and the stem was a transition 50mm, around 150g.

The wheels are stock wtb dual duty with shimano rear hub and the front is a dual duty with a dimension convertable hub.

 

[el_chupo_]

Those are good rims, though you could lose quite a bit of weight with a custom build. But that will be ~$350 (Chain reaction cycles)

Stem - Truvativ AKA is a great cheap, light stem. A 70mm should be about 160-170g
Bars - Truvativ Holzfeller world cup (2009) is 265g.

Both from pricepoint should get you at about 70 bucks, the cost of the stem alone from Transition.

they will price match bluesky cycles on SLX cranks for $130.

Also, the Transition site lists the Temple Lite stem at 220g, not 150. I think you were looking at the direct mount for double crown forks.

 

[b-kul]

i think changing the bars and stem is a good idea, your stem seems abit long for your bike anyways, but dont expect to feel any noticeable weight difference. id go for a wider bar, your bikes still gonna be heavy and a wide bar will give you added leverage to throw it around easier. if you are really serious about losing weight, as el chupo said, the best way is to get new wheels.

 

[wolfman00]

current findings.

so I got the weights all the stock drivetrain and things I have replaced.

the stock stuff:
bars- 375g
rear deraileur- 300g
front deraileur- 210g
BB- 300g
Cranks- 861g
pedals- 529g

Replaced so far:
bars- 305g
rear deraileur- 215g
front deraileur- 158g
BB- 290g
cranks- 940g
pedals, mg1- 376g

so the stock parts total at 2575g or 5.67lbs
the replaced parts total at 2284g or 5.03lbs
so basically I saved 291g or .64lbs.
That is so far as it sits right now, but- I added the joplin, thats 480g, the stock was 290. So that added 190g and minus the saved 291, I am overall 101 grams lighter than stock. So, in a nutshell, my upgrades did help some, overall at least didnt make it any heavier. The domain on the other hand...haha ohwell. It is rocksolid though.

so in a nutshell- the only significant weight savings was in my wallet...

 

[gladegp]

its designed for a 100-130mm fork, and you've got one of the heaviest 180mm forks on the market on it! time for a better match.

I just have to pitch in. This is a common misconception. The Domain is by no means heavy, in fact, up until the Fox 36 180mm Van came it was probably the lightest 180 mm coil fork out there.

Domain 180mm Coil 2835g (6.25 lbs)
Totem coil 2874g (6.33 lbs)
Mz 66RC3 3089 g
Mz 66RC3 Ti 2840 g
2011 Fox 36 Van 180 mm 5.98 lb / 2.71 kg

But either way, it's probably not the fork you want on the parker if you want to shave weight. I'd definately go wheels, tires, fork and big things before trying to swap all the little things. The big things will cost you less per gram then the small things like bar, stem and so on.

Oh and by the way, deal of the century on a stem is the Pro FRS.
50 mm 139g
70mm 144g
$44

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=44971