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Tonite I swapped out the lowers on my new 06 Z1 Light ETA for a black set I had...I figured I'd snap a pic if anyone was curious. Only real difference between the 04/ 05/ 06 I can see regarding lowers/ crown stanchion assembly is the stanchions now appear to be tapered down a bit the last .5" (bottom). If I had to guess, I would say this is to allow for negotiating the seals/ bushings easier. I could see no other reason for it on this model. Swap out was simple & fast.

FYI- those of you with this fork, the oil levels suggested on the site are errant as usual. It lists R 165/ L 135. I had to remove 12 cc from the right to come close to full travel.
 

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clever title. got me to look. glad it went well. now a pic of the new mod complete and on the bike would be a plus, dont ya think?
 

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What no component weights?

The left leg is TAS & ETA...the right leg is TST? Does this make it identical to the AM1 but with a stouter crown/stanchion assy? Like my Z1AM?
Is that right cart the open bath equivalent of the TST bladder?
 

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What no component weights?

The left leg is TAS & ETA...the right leg is TST? Does this make it identical to the AM1 but with a stouter crown/stanchion assy? Like my Z1AM?
Is that right cart the open bath equivalent of the TST bladder?
Sorry, I am still waiting on my Ultimate digital to get here. No weights yet, but feels identical in weight (+ or - a gnats gnard....CC) to the 05 Z1 I took off. The right cart is the RC2. It has a much nicer feel IMHO than the TST. Also, much more adjustment for the compression. The compression has like 20 clicks of adjustment & actually seems to prevent brake dive somewhat nicely. Rebound adjust on top, compression on bottom. I do prefer the compression on top however, the TST is nice for that quick adjustment on the fly.
 

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Compression on the bottom? That just saved you from a double-team beat down.

I don't think I'd be changing my rebound as often as my compression...but then I don't change that often either. Leave it to Marzocchi to once again come within a gnats gnards of having every feature wanted, and then stop cold.

Tell you what though, send me the carts and I'll weigh them for you.
 

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No tricks. I'm just trying to save you from me coming down there and roughing you up if you don't. :)
You'll have to stand in line TS. I have already reserved the first spot for the beat-down to get those lowers :)
 

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Not to hijack the thread, but, there seems to be some interest. I'm thinking about buying this same fork, but I also prefer the all black look. Tscheezy, SSINGA, or anyone else, would you want to trade lowers? Obviously I wouldn't want someones all beat up/sloppy bushing worn lowers, but an equitable trade. Anyone interested?
 

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Not to hijack the thread, but, there seems to be some interest. I'm thinking about buying this same fork, but I also prefer the all black look. Tscheezy, SSINGA, or anyone else, would you want to trade lowers? Obviously I wouldn't want someones all beat up/sloppy bushing worn lowers, but an equitable trade. Anyone interested?
Oh, Oh, Oh pick me, pick me!!

Those new lowers are post mount, correct. Do I need a new adaptor for Avids w/ 203mm rotor?
 

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SSINGA said:
Oh, Oh, Oh pick me, pick me!!
First come, first served! Besides, you allready sent me a "deposit" last week. :D
Again sorry for the thread hijack. I'm real interested in trying out the RC2 damping, so I've seriously thought about disassembling the ZAM1, reassembling the AM1 and Z1FR1, and selling them both.
 

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Nice J!!

I thought you had teared open a HSCV cartridge (or RC2 for what matters)...

So your sexy italian model just was showing her bikini!!! But hey, I'm not complaining... who would complain seeing such a sexy girl in bikini?!

Congrats on the new fork!
 

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The Z1 line still uses the old casting and so is still IS, not post mount. Now I gotta come down there and kick 3 of your butts.
 

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For all of you interested....if you're currently running the frankenfork setup, you could essentially make the jump to RC2 by simply buying a cartridge (caps...etc.) & replacing the TST cart (assuming those carts will be available before the 07 models hit :rolleyes:. I see no significant differences.

Warp-the RC2 is not serviceable so it cannot be opened....only replaced :mad: But, if it has the same longevity as the HSCV carts...this is a non-issue.

Jay
 

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tscheezy said:
Now I gotta come down there and kick 3 of your butts.
You might want to plan on an extended stay during this leg of your conquest. I can't even remember the last time someone successfully pulled that off. If I had to guess, I'd say it was probably while I was in prison! ;)
 

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jncarpenter said:
For all of you interested....if you're currently running the frankenfork setup, you could essentially make the jump to RC2 by simply buying a cartridge (caps...etc.) & replacing the TST cart (assuming those carts will be available before the 07 models hit :rolleyes:. I see no significant differences.

Warp-the RC2 is not serviceable so it cannot be opened....only replaced :mad: But, if it has the same longevity as the HSCV carts...this is a non-issue.

Jay
Jay, I realize that you probably haven't had alot of time in on this fork but, do you feel that the RC2 is that much better of a damping system than tst, HSCV, etc that I sould spend the money to get the cartridge or sell my other forks to get a complete '06 Z1?
 

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For all of you interested....you could essentially make the jump to RC2 by simply buying a cartridge.
Or I can "visit" you with TS' AK Mafia, and get it for free.
"We want you should consider this bicycle insurance...in case youze and your bike were to meet with some unfortunate circumstance."
 

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Jay, I realize that you probably haven't had alot of time in on this fork but, do you feel that the RC2 is that much better of a damping system than tst, HSCV, etc that I sould spend the money to get the cartridge or sell my other forks to get a complete '06 Z1?
Well, true..I haven't had much time yet. I did do a few rides with the original lowers & of course the fork isn't broken in yet. What I did discover is that it does have a similar feel to the TST (AM1 on my other ride). However, IMHO...the compression alone on the Z1 Light is a superior upgrade. It gives you more options in your setup. As you know, TST is more of a preset compression range. The RC2 allows for a much boader range of adjustment. Also, the TST moves through the larger gamut very quickly from extreme to extreme whereas the RC2 selects from a smaller segment of compression, but allows much more adjustment within it, making smaller changes in compression. IE. the RC2 will not allow a full on lockout, but you get around 20 clicks of adjustment to fine tune the useable compression. I also never feel like the TST does much in the way of brake dive...the RC2 definitely is more effective here. It really comes down to what your use is going to require from the compression.
Quick, on-the-fly variations? TST
Initial setup, finely tuned compression...less brake dive? RC2

YMMV

Jay
 
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