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I own a Seven Sola that when built in '99 I foolishly elected to leave off the disc brakes tabs even though I sized the seat stay(s) to accept them, because the rep assured me that when I wanted them I could send in the frame and for ~$300 have it reconditioned and have the tabs welded on. Well... I know it's several years later and inflation may have settled in, but when I called earlier this week they wanted $1700 :eek: , and suggested I just buy a new frame! The rep said the price reflects the fact that Seven has a new dropouts design that incorporate the disc brake tabs for a stiffer system, and was unwilling to consider just simply welding on tabs like they've done in the past. Well, as you can guess, I'll be running V's for the foreseeable future unless anybody has any suggestions.
 

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CrashTheDOG said:
I own a Seven Sola that when built in '99 I foolishly elected to leave off the disc brakes tabs even though I sized the seat stay(s) to accept them, because the rep assured me that when I wanted them I could send in the frame and for ~$300 have it reconditioned and have the tabs welded on. Well... I know it's several years later and inflation may have settled in, but when I called earlier this week they wanted $1700 :eek: , and suggested I just buy a new frame! The rep said the price reflects the fact that Seven has a new dropouts design that incorporate the disc brake tabs for a stiffer system, and was unwilling to consider just simply welding on tabs like they've done in the past. Well, as you can guess, I'll be running V's for the foreseeable future unless anybody has any suggestions.
Try a different builder? Maybe see if Moots or IF will do it for you? Is there any rule that says that Seven needs to be the one to do it?
 

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I Bet that...

Carl Strong would do it for you. Toyed with the same thing myself and they quoted me between $250 - $350 depending on whether I wanted them to brace the seat/chain-stay junciton. Carl is reknowned for the quality of his work!!
 

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Matt Chester also does Ti repair work. His site explains what he will and won't undertake, so it might be worth checking.

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Try a different builder? Maybe see if Moots or IF will do it for you? Is there any rule that says that Seven needs to be the one to do it?
 

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www.dekerf.com

He's done it on my steel frame, and several of my friends, for $175- that includes removing the canti bosses. One friend had him do the same procedure to his Ti Hardtail- I think it was about $300 total and looked top notch. They polished it up for him, it looked brand new.

Call deKerf!

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I own a Seven Sola that when built in '99 I foolishly elected to leave off the disc brakes tabs even though I sized the seat stay(s) to accept them, because the rep assured me that when I wanted them I could send in the frame and for ~$300 have it reconditioned and have the tabs welded on. Well... I know it's several years later and inflation may have settled in, but when I called earlier this week they wanted $1700 :eek: , and suggested I just buy a new frame! The rep said the price reflects the fact that Seven has a new dropouts design that incorporate the disc brake tabs for a stiffer system, and was unwilling to consider just simply welding on tabs like they've done in the past. Well, as you can guess, I'll be running V's for the foreseeable future unless anybody has any suggestions.
 

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Take Seven's advice...

And get a new frame. You can get a nice steel hardtail WITH disc tabs for $90. Personally, I don't think any hardtail is worth much more than that.

http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=1952&category=452

OR

Just go with front disc and keep the rear V brake. The front is much more important than the rear brake anyway. I ran my bike like that for over a year. Worked fine. It's much cheaper too because you don't need a new rear wheel, just the front.
 

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CrashTheDOG said:
I own a Seven Sola that when built in '99 I foolishly elected to leave off the disc brakes tabs even though I sized the seat stay(s) to accept them, because the rep assured me that when I wanted them I could send in the frame and for ~$300 have it reconditioned and have the tabs welded on. Well... I know it's several years later and inflation may have settled in, but when I called earlier this week they wanted $1700 :eek: , and suggested I just buy a new frame! The rep said the price reflects the fact that Seven has a new dropouts design that incorporate the disc brake tabs for a stiffer system, and was unwilling to consider just simply welding on tabs like they've done in the past. Well, as you can guess, I'll be running V's for the foreseeable future unless anybody has any suggestions.
Don't bother spending $1700 - Very much not worth it. As already suggested the likes of Matt Chester or possibly IF will possibly be able to provide a work around.

Perhaps also check the review sections, in disk brakes for brake adapters - there are some companies offering options for disk mounting.
 

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try...

adding a disc tab won't be cheap, but it will be alot less than a new frame. try dean (talk to john, and none of the other knuckleheads there), moots (it won't be cheap) and carl strong (strongframes.com, he has done a few frames that i have seen on mtbr).

i think strong will be your best bet. ask for something that has a longer spine, it will place the force of braking accross a longer section on the stay. i doubt matt chester will do a disc tab, he hates disc brakes...heck, all his frames are ss or fixed gear only!!!

since you say that you sepc'd you stays for disc brakes, and if you use a tab with a longer spine, i doubt you'd have any problems in the futurue.

cheers and good luck.

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I own a Seven Sola that when built in '99 I foolishly elected to leave off the disc brakes tabs even though I sized the seat stay(s) to accept them, because the rep assured me that when I wanted them I could send in the frame and for ~$300 have it reconditioned and have the tabs welded on. Well... I know it's several years later and inflation may have settled in, but when I called earlier this week they wanted $1700 :eek: , and suggested I just buy a new frame! The rep said the price reflects the fact that Seven has a new dropouts design that incorporate the disc brake tabs for a stiffer system, and was unwilling to consider just simply welding on tabs like they've done in the past. Well, as you can guess, I'll be running V's for the foreseeable future unless anybody has any suggestions.
 

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I would be interested in the garrantee issue from Seven, when some one else would professionally weld up a disc tab... I can very well imagine those 7 dudes will do difficult if there should be any trouble (related to the disc tab or not) with your frame....

I know Seven's are cool, very fine made (sometimes a bit of discusionpoint, ok) and so on.. but Ive heared more of these 'unpleasant' surprises that the Seven company has been putting at their clients. Im not stating that Seven cant make some profit in works like these, adding a tab or so, but 1700 bucks?! Come on man.. that's plain insane and I will declare everyone that is willing to pay that amount a complete insane person.... This has nothing to do with customerservice.. not even in a tiny respect...
 

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Don't bother spending $1700 - Very much not worth it. As already suggested the likes of Matt Chester or possibly IF will possibly be able to provide a work around.

Perhaps also check the review sections, in disk brakes for brake adapters - there are some companies offering options for disk mounting.
Last I checked Matt Chester wasn't even offering disk tabs on his own frames.
 

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I know you have an über cool Seven sitting there (yes, I'm jealous), but have you looked at www.discbrakeadapters.com? It bolts on. I ordered one this morning for my Infusion frame (anyone else remember those?). I'll give you a report in a few days once it gets here.
 

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CrashTheDOG said:
Well, as you can guess, I'll be running V's for the foreseeable future unless anybody has any suggestions.
Just run disk front only. I do, and it works just fine. All you want in a disk, you want in the front anyway. Set yourself with some Martha SL's in the front wheel and ignore stupid questions.
 

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Give Titus a try.... they helped me

Crash,

I have a relevant story to tell. Titus was able and willing to add disk brake mounts to my 1998 custom Litespeed. I had the same run-a-round with Litespeed, but they only quoted me $800 dollars. Litespeed also wanted to replace the entire dropout with their current integrated design because they said the my seat-stay tubing was not of appropriate thickness to handle the stresses associated with disc brake mounts. I said fine we can surely engineer a proper, less wasteful solution. So, I proposed a different solution of my own design which included a gusset to strenthen the seat-stay but, they didn't budge. I thought this was just rubbish and found them to be very, very non-creative so started calling around and talking to some other custom Ti builders.

I landed on Titus because I discovered they have a history of doing this type of retrofitting to non-Titus frames. I explained my problem and faxed them my design for a new rear brake mount. They tweaked it some (to get the IS dimensions correct) and they generally agreed the design was just fine and should solve any structural weakness concerning the seat-stays.

I've been riding with this brake mount now for two years and I've had no problems (take a look at the picture below). This retrofit only cost me a scant $200 (not including shipping) and it took about 3 weeks!! The mount was perfectly aligned... I didn't need to face the mount at all.... all I can say is perfect. My next bike will certainly be a custom Titus.

Give Titus a call and go disk!!

Hope this helps.

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i doubt matt chester will do a disc tab, he hates disc brakes...heck, all his frames are ss or fixed gear only!!!
I do not "hate" anything. The fact that someone doesn't offer something isn't indicative of hatred. All bikes are cool.

mc
 

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sorry...

sorry matt...that was an extremely poor choice of words. i know you're an exprienced rider and builder. and, that you like to build frames a certain way, but that does not mean you hate anything.

my apologies.

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I do not "hate" anything. The fact that someone doesn't offer something isn't indicative of hatred. All bikes are cool.

mc
 

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Crash- I ran the Brake Therapy setup on a Ti HT and loved it, it worked with no problems, much cheaper too.
 

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I got my adapter from www.discbrakeadapters.com today and it works great. I am taking my first serious ride later today (just got back from a neighborhood ride). I had to shim my caliper over with a couple washers, but other than that it fits like a glove. The only other problem I have is that the bosses on my bike are for cable brakes, and I have no way to mount the hydraulic cables to the frame. I'm using the ultra-ghetto zip tie method for now, but I'm checking into having a friend weld (or braze or whatever it is) some hydraulic cable bosses on the frame.

I'll post pics for anyone interested....
 

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I got my adapter from www.discbrakeadapters.com today and it works great. I am taking my first serious ride later today (just got back from a neighborhood ride). I had to shim my caliper over with a couple washers, but other than that it fits like a glove. The only other problem I have is that the bosses on my bike are for cable brakes, and I have no way to mount the hydraulic cables to the frame. I'm using the ultra-ghetto zip tie method for now, but I'm checking into having a friend weld (or braze or whatever it is) some hydraulic cable bosses on the frame.

I'll post pics for anyone interested....
get some problem solver hose guides. work great.

check them out at cambria bikes

http://www.cambriabike.com/brakes/problem_solvers_hydraulic_brake_line_guides.htm
 
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