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petey15

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I'm getting ready to build up my first frame and had a couple of questions regarding tools. Does anyone have any experience with Sette tools vs. Park, i.e. crown race setting tool/star nut setter? I'll be installing the Cane Creek 110 and really don't want to mess it up. Is there really any difference in brands in regards to those items? Also, I see that Cane Creek makes headset adapters to use with the press when installing this headset - again, are they necessary? I'd hate to screw up the headset, but I also don't want to spend extra money on something I don't really need. Thanks! :thumbsup:
 
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^Did something like that myself. Except I left out the copper piece and just used the washers, and it works well. Even I think that the Sette Headset Press was too expensive. I do find all there other tools useful, I even have the star nut set and it worked very well with the 2 star nuts I have set so far. I used a PVC pip to set the crown race on my bike, I got to big of a size but I still got it to work. Just so you know 1.5 inch pipe is too big for setting a crown race on a 1 1/8th head tube. 1 1/4 inch is probably much better to set a 1 1/8th crown race, but I have not tested it yet.
 
petey15

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Well, I already got the Park HHP-3 as a gift - so didn't have to purchase that. Does anyone have any experience installing the Cane Creek 110? I was wondering if the adapter cups were necessary for the install, the HHP-3 has the flat base that connects with the headset so it wouldn't appear that it would put pressure on the compression ring - but wasn't sure if I should order the adapters or not to install...
Good to hear the star nut setter seems to be worth it. I'll have to see about using PVC to set the crown race - hmmm - good ideas - keep 'em coming!
 
quietcornerrider

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Dremer03 said:
Long flat head screw driver, be careful not to take a junk out of the frame.
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Seriously? Didn't you read the last post?

DON'T USE A ****ING SCREWDRIVER!:madman: It's advice like that that ruins people's bikes.

A hacksaw and a 12 inch piece of 3/4" copper pipe ($5.23 at Home Depot for a 2 ft. length, enough for 2 removal tools) are all you'll ever need unless you work in a shop.

Even then, it might be all you'll ever need.
 
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savagemann

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Ditch the screwdriver, block of wood and mallet.

The DIY method pictured above works great.

For installing a race use a long piece of thick walled PVC pipe.

For removing cups I have heard of people using PVC or copper pipe. Like this.......
http://www.instructables.com/id/Bicycle-Headset-Cup-Remover/

For removing a crown race at home I use a cheapo pocket knife. A liquor stroe special.
Hammer on the back of the blade, carefully,with the edge of the blade between the race and the fork crown. Work your way around. It will come off in less than a minute.

Or in a pinch, bring your favorite mechanic a 6 pack of fat tire and nicely ask him if he will help you out. Usually is a good replacement for all of the above repairs.
 
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You do realize that even bike mechanics use a flat head screw driver to remove headset cups,
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Not any fawking mechanics that I ever knew , that would be grounds for firing in any decent shop . :mad:
 
quietcornerrider

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You do realize that even bike mechanics use a flat head screw driver to remove headset cups, and bike mechanics use wood a mallet to install them?
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No. No they don't. Ever. You are wrong.

What you are saying is going to lead to frame damage, in a most sensitive area like the headtube, whether or not you "Take care not to take a "junk" out of the frame".
 
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shopcat_cycles

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I work in a shop and removed my headset cups w/ a flat head(w/ some duct tape folded over the tip) the other day. No, it's not the proper way but they are rather easy to remove and it can be done without doing damage. The copper pipe is a better tool for the job.

If I was at the shop, obviously I would have used the RT-1 head cup removal tool. I wouldn't recommend the flat head removal to anyone though.
 
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I work in a shop and removed my headset cups w/ a flat head(w/ some duct tape folded over the tip) the other day. No, it's not the proper way but they are rather easy to remove and it can be done without doing damage. The copper pipe is a better tool for the job.

If I was at the shop, obviously I would have used the RT-1 head cup removal tool. I wouldn't recommend the flat head removal to anyone though.
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Thanks for coming forward and saying something. Obviously the 2 above individuals have a skewed view of what happens in the real world and what they think happens in the real world.

Before some one jumps on me, I never said it was the proper way to do it. It is however a way to do it without the correct tool which most people dont own.
 
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