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Before I even go into my problems.

Local bike shop has a used 05 Specialized Enduro Comp for $1300 totally loaded.
Local seller has an 04 Stumpjumper FSR M4 w/ good components other than front fork for $750.

I ride mostly backwoods trails and I guess would be considered AM. I already have a DH bike and a Single speed. WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

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NOW THE SITUATION IF I GET THE STUMPY:

I have an 05 Hardrock SS Disc with a Marzocchi MZ Comp fork, I might purchase the 04 Stumpy M4 FSR w/ a Manitou Black Elite fork.

I mostly ride my local trails which include a few jumps and drops.

I'm a big guy, 225lbs and have had no problems or bottoming out with the MZ Comps, I get the bike tomorrow and want to ride it, but I kinda have a feeling that without upgraded springs the Manitou isnt going to cooperate with me so well.

My questions is, how difficult is it to swap the Marzocchi with the Manitou.

Which is a better fork?

SO A, B, or C.

A. Get new springs for the Manitou

B. Swap the Manitou with the Marzocchi

C. Stop Messing around and get a Fox Talas
 

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Don't touch either bike

If you haven't had problems with the MZ Comp, the Manitou Black will feel like a dream. Unless of course, you get a bad one, then the dream becomes a nightmare. My point is that the Black is a superior fork to the MZ. Don't mess with either until you ride the Stumpy for a while and get a feel for how the Black is going to perform. My guess is you'll be fine.

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So you think the Enduro isn't worth the extra cash?

I do plan on riding it and seeing, I have just heard that the black does not always work well with big guys.
 

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I'm a big guy, 225lbs and have had no problems or bottoming out with the MZ Comps,


I loved my old MZ Comps everyone allways tried to tell me how crap they where but i did not think that i used them for 2 years and never bottomed them out,I sold them to getter a better fork in the end,

I think you should stop messing around and get a Fox Talas,IMO i wouldent think the black would be that reliable for a big guy im a light guy and just about every Manitou fork ive had has gone wrong.

In Marzocchi we trust!!!!!
 

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Switching forks may be imposible. It depends on how long the steerer tubes are. If one is shorter than the other than it won't work on the other bike.

So I'd forget switching forks. The FSR comes with the black? Then ride the black and see if you like it. If you hate it then start shoping for a talas. Personaly I think the talus is overpriced. You could get a vanilla or a mintute one for under 300.00. Both are good forks with atleast 5" travel. If the price of the talas is not a problem then also consider the AM forks from marzocchi.
 

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Despite the name, I wouldn't be jumping off anything on a Stumpjumper FSR at 225 lbs
I would have thought the Enduro would be more appropriate.
 

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You are thinking Enduro?

I talked to some Clydes who ride the Stumpy FSR and they are alright.

Will I snap it?
 

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I think both frames are sturdy. The Enduro is more of a freeride frame made for jumps and drops. But both are used and posibly abused or pampered. You just don't know how hard they were riden. How fatigued the aluminum is. Will the LBS honor any type of warrantee on the frame?

You can measure the steerer tubes but in reality one will be shorter. The shorter one will not work on the other bike unless you can remove some spacers and or go to a lower stack headset. And those fixes will only solve the problem if its only a tiny bit shorter. If it's 1-2 inches shorter, than it's just not gonna work.
 

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I think the springs in the Black elite will be too soft for a 225lb rider. They feel pretty good to me @ 152lbs.
 

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Endure=separate issue

cmb2874 said:
So you think the Enduro isn't worth the extra cash?

I do plan on riding it and seeing, I have just heard that the black does not always work well with big guys.
I thought the question centered around what to do if you get the stumpy. The Enduro at $1300 is a pretty sweet deal. If it were my money, I'd scrap the idea of the used bike and buy the leftover '05 Enduro Comp. If you don't like the Enduro Comp, I'd fall back on the Stuimpy and just ride it as it is.

Let us know what you decide.

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cmb2874 said:
So you think the Enduro isn't worth the extra cash?

I do plan on riding it and seeing, I have just heard that the black does not always work well with big guys.
I would like the Enduro, but I haven't ridden it.

I had a 04 Stumpy FSR with the Black fork, and had no problems with it. It worked pretty well, and I'm 230 lbs plus gear.

If you can test ride both of them, do it. It would make your decision easier :)
 

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cmb2874 said:
So you think the Enduro isn't worth the extra cash?

I do plan on riding it and seeing, I have just heard that the black does not always work well with big guys.
Because of your size, I think the Enduro is the way to go.:thumbsup:

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I have a Black and I'm 250+gear, mine is air sprung though, love it. I'd say go w/the overbuilt bike if you are going to be doing any type of Freeriding and you're big also, that should equal the Enduro in my book.
 
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