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This seems like a good forum for this topic: how do you cope during the weeks and months it can take to get your custom frame? It seems that the 29er board would have more than its fair share of people who got custom frames, given the nature of 29ers.

Here is may sad story. I built a Pugsley (a pseudo 29er, to be sure), fell in love, sold it off in a fit of retail brilliance/madness, and ordered a custom Fatbike/DeSalvo replacement. Now some schmuck in Alaska is a couple thousand miles from here putting my former steed through its paces in sub zero temps with a big frozen grin on his face. Putting aside, for the moment, the widsom of selling the Pugs, I am stuck in a sort of classic waiting zone between the time when I plunk down my chunk o' change, and the time when my dream machine is actually in my sweaty little palms.

Having never done this before, I was unprepared the the anxiety involved. Sure, I had heard of it before. I had talked to people who have ordered a custom frame and have had to wait for it to arrive. I yawned at their stories. I was completely unsympathetic. How bad could it be, I reasoned, having to pass the time for a few months while you waited for your hedonistic indulgence to arrive. Hard to dredge up a lot of heartfelt concern over that. Hmph. Even the stories I have read on this forum failed to move me, I admit. I sold off the object of my lust presuming that I would be strong and able to withstand this. After all, I am in the business. I get pretty much whatever I want and if it does not work out I sell it off and break even. No big. I should be a jaded, grizzled, cynical consumer when it comes to stuff like this.

But all I can say at this point is: ARRRGGGHHHH!!!! Cant...take...it...much...longer. Must....talk...like...this.... OMG, I have become the worst kind of customer there is. I feel like bugging the frame maker every day. I want to call the paint shop and talk about color schemes. I want to get pictures of bikes and draw funny patterns on them to help me decide how it should look. I change my mind about paint and components about three times a day. One day while I was deep in thought considering the merits of various color schemes, my wife poked me on the shoulder...

"Hun?", she said, patiently.
"Wah - huh?", I replied.
"You just drove past the exit for our house."
"Huh, yeah. Hey, why didn't you warn me!"

Yeah, its a personal problem. It is called obsessive-compulsive behavior. I have a great excuse. My gene pool is full of it. Get me in a room with my brothers when each of us is behind on our bills, or buying a new Harley, or marrying off a son, or whatever. We can talk all day, and not one single remark will be made in response to any other remark anyone else makes, and at the end of the day, none of us will remember what the others said. We can never say our Dad never gave us anything.

So, my question is this. Have other custom frame buyers experienced similar stress and distraction? Am I going mad? How did you deal with it? Is it possible to cope? Should I take up needlepoint? Does running down the street stark naked screaming like a lunatic help?

And, oh yeah, what do you think of an all polished/silver components scheme? I mean, everyone is going with all black components now, it is getting so cliche. Anodized colors like red and blue fade unevenly, and scratches show up so bad on black. Silver is very practical, and looks classy, I think, but maybe it is going overboard to go all silver, may just a few black bits would be OK, besides, the rims I want are only available in black, so maybe I would be better off mixing or not worrying about it so much........
 

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Seems....

Mabe you can just post all over mtbr mabe get a log going like aquaman???

:rolleyes:

Mabe it's time for a beater to goof with.... I like the polished bits... or lx gray?

Been thinking of getting a 3 peace crank and powder coating it the same as my next bike (mabe a pug) :rolleyes:

if there was a way to make rattle can camo finish last that would rock on a snowbike type thing
 

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Just go ride any other bikes you have (I'm sure you do). I appreciate anything I'm riding, but the waiting does suck. If that bores you, do all the maintenance on the other bikes you haven't done for a while. Better yet, just go spend time with someone you love and give them your full attention. We all do this too little.

Polished all the way BTW. I think it looks great.
 

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Whoa....

You, like, have another bike of some sort, right?

Easy solution: RIDE more. If the weather sucks, go running, hit the climbing gym, lift weights, whatever. Do something to make sure that *you* are worthy of your new bike when it shows up - do you think that fancy custom machine is going to be impressed by your 5 o'clock shadow, bloodshot eyes, and beer gut, not to mention the nervous tic you've had ever since you used that bucket of lye to strip the anodization off your rims? ;)

Just kidding. I'm sure it's frustrating. Just try to remember that as much as we love them, bikes are just things. Material possessions. The best feeling you can get on a bike, in my opinion, is when you're totally oblivious to its existence because you're flowing so well with the trail or suffering so badly up a climb. If the bike disappears under you, that's a good ride. Conversely, if you're thinking about how your bike looks while you're riding it, that's bad. And if you don't think about it while riding, why worry about how it looks when you aren't? It's a mountain bike, not a lowrider - just get the best, most functional stuff you can and let the colors be what they are.

-Walt

DirtDad said:
This seems like a good forum for this topic: how do you cope during the weeks and months it can take to get your custom frame? It seems that the 29er board would have more than its fair share of people who got custom frames, given the nature of 29ers.

Here is may sad story. I built a Pugsley (a pseudo 29er, to be sure), fell in love, sold it off in a fit of retail brilliance/madness, and ordered a custom Fatbike/DeSalvo replacement. Now some schmuck in Alaska is a couple thousand miles from here putting my former steed through its paces in sub zero temps with a big frozen grin on his face. Putting aside, for the moment, the widsom of selling the Pugs, I am stuck in a sort of classic waiting zone between the time when I plunk down my chunk o' change, and the time when my dream machine is actually in my sweaty little palms.

Having never done this before, I was unprepared the the anxiety involved. Sure, I had heard of it before. I had talked to people who have ordered a custom frame and have had to wait for it to arrive. I yawned at their stories. I was completely unsympathetic. How bad could it be, I reasoned, having to pass the time for a few months while you waited for your hedonistic indulgence to arrive. Hard to dredge up a lot of heartfelt concern over that. Hmph. Even the stories I have read on this forum failed to move me, I admit. I sold off the object of my lust presuming that I would be strong and able to withstand this. After all, I am in the business. I get pretty much whatever I want and if it does not work out I sell it off and break even. No big. I should be a jaded, grizzled, cynical consumer when it comes to stuff like this.

But all I can say at this point is: ARRRGGGHHHH!!!! Cant...take...it...much...longer. Must....talk...like...this.... OMG, I have become the worst kind of customer there is. I feel like bugging the frame maker every day. I want to call the paint shop and talk about color schemes. I want to get pictures of bikes and draw funny patterns on them to help me decide how it should look. I change my mind about paint and components about three times a day. One day while I was deep in thought considering the merits of various color schemes, my wife poked me on the shoulder...

"Hun?", she said, patiently.
"Wah - huh?", I replied.
"You just drove past the exit for our house."
"Huh, yeah. Hey, why didn't you warn me!"

Yeah, its a personal problem. It is called obsessive-compulsive behavior. I have a great excuse. My gene pool is full of it. Get me in a room with my brothers when each of us is behind on our bills, or buying a new Harley, or marrying off a son, or whatever. We can talk all day, and not one single remark will be made in response to any other remark anyone else makes, and at the end of the day, none of us will remember what the others said. We can never say our Dad never gave us anything.

So, my question is this. Have other custom frame buyers experienced similar stress and distraction? Am I going mad? How did you deal with it? Is it possible to cope? Should I take up needlepoint? Does running down the street stark naked screaming like a lunatic help?

And, oh yeah, what do you think of an all polished/silver components scheme? I mean, everyone is going with all black components now, it is getting so cliche. Anodized colors like red and blue fade unevenly, and scratches show up so bad on black. Silver is very practical, and looks classy, I think, but maybe it is going overboard to go all silver, may just a few black bits would be OK, besides, the rims I want are only available in black, so maybe I would be better off mixing or not worrying about it so much........
 

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I feel your pain

I have had an XL Behemoth frame for a month and I'm still waiting for the WB 1.3 fork. Do you think an old Manitou Pro C will work instead?
 

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OrBikbldr said:
porn

(wife over shoulder) errrr, bike porn I mean.
yeah... what he said... Or a good video game like Call of Duty 2!
 

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Simple...
take a few months off and do something else like this.....

FYI - we got absolutely BURIED yesterday (yes, the pic is from yesterday up at Alta) and guess what? Absolute bluebird day today - guess I gotta go make some turns :)

D
 

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Alta825 said:
Simple...
take a few months off and do something else like this.....

FYI - we got absolutely BURIED yesterday (yes, the pic is from yesterday up at Alta) and guess what? Absolute bluebird day today - guess I gotta go make some turns :)

D
WORD. Get out the skinny skis and get your heart rate up for a couple of hours. Excercise is a great panacea for OCD. If that fails you can try the porn thing but the risk there is obsessive self stimulation and with your genetic predisposition it's probably contraindicated.
 

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BTW, I'm also in the same boat as you. Been waiting for my Waltworks for a good long while and yes, I have bugged Walt with needless anxieties re: geometry and weight savings ideas. I feel your pain. But Walt tells me the bike is on the way to the powdercoater and soon to arrive to be placed beside the Xmas tree. In the meantime I wax up the skate skis and head for the trails after quitting time. This too shall pass.
 

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I'd second, or third, or fourth the exercise thing. I'm waiting on three customs. It's about enough to drive a person crazy. Ride the trainer, XC ski, lift, repeat....
 

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Off subject, but I'd be interested in hearing, Dirtdad, a comparison between the Pugsley and the Wildfire once you get your new frame in and built up.
 

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Full build blog?

pbasinger said:
Off subject, but I'd be interested in hearing, Dirtdad, a comparison between the Pugsley and the Wildfire once you get your new frame in and built up.
I would be happy to. I have had a few people also request a build blog which I really enjoy doing, so I will probably do that, too.
 

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DirtDad said:
This seems like a good forum for this topic: how do you cope during the weeks and months it can take to get your custom frame? "
The best way to make the wait seem shorter is to simply build and ride a prototype.

Mine consists of a too-small BuzzBomb frame with all the components that will be on the new bike with the exception of the stem.

Once you get the new frame there should be no major adjustments to be made, just transfer parts, add the new stem, and continue riding.

So if the wait is too long, build your new frame out of an old one!
 

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Run the trails

Not as fun as mountain biking but enjoyable to me none the less.
 

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Walt said:
Just kidding. I'm sure it's frustrating. Just try to remember that as much as we love them, bikes are just things. Material possessions. The best feeling you can get on a bike, in my opinion, is when you're totally oblivious to its existence because you're flowing so well with the trail or suffering so badly up a climb. If the bike disappears under you, that's a good ride. Conversely, if you're thinking about how your bike looks while you're riding it, that's bad. And if you don't think about it while riding, why worry about how it looks when you aren't? It's a mountain bike, not a lowrider - just get the best, most functional stuff you can and let the colors be what they are.

-Walt
Exactly.. :)

R.
 

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All I got to say is this.

If they do your frame before mine, I'm going to go to Colorado and paint the god damned thing myself.

PS, I'm going all silver/polished. You can burn hours, wekks really with a dremel tool and an old set of Hayes brakes. BLING!
 

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I felt your pain...

till last night, Fedex delivery 7:30pm!

After what seemed like an eternity my 1st custom frame arrived. I explored, pondered and pontificated what seemed like every possible configuration of material, geometry, color, shape, the list went on and on. I finally settled on everything except color so the builder could get started, since I had more time till it was ready for powder, I drove myself mad. You see I'm one of those creative types, all day long I come up with whitty headlines, cool designs, funky colors to help clients solve a problem, so who was going to help me with my problem. About 3 or 4 days before it was ready to get powdercoated I chose what I wanted and said that was that, I'm done. Now that I have it I could not be happier, the bike is everything I wanted it to be. Well almost, I will finish building it tonight and ride it, then it will be everything I wanted (hopefully).

I felt bad because I knew I was a needy customer, not in the way of asking the builder for everything because for the most part I told him what I wanted for geometry and riding then let him make decisions based on that, but I emailed him almost every other day because I was so excited, not rushing him to get it done by any means, but just talking about the process and things of that sort. He handled it well, was always accomodating and gracious for my business. I appreciated that and tried really really hard not to bother him.

I haven't mentioned the builder or posted a picture yet on mtbr since it's not built, but most likely tonight I will give a proper unveiling since many people here helped contribute to my bike knowledge that allowed me the foresight to know what I was looking for in a bike.

-j

Oh yeah the worst part is when you are told it's shipped, those days are the worst.
 
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