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I race a single speed 29'r and was excited to see Schwalbe announce the 29 inch version of the Rocket Ron was "avalible" in April of this year. ( my favorite 26" tire)
A lighter, and in my opinion, better tread patterned tire than the Small Block Eight which is the race 29 standard at this point.

The THING is:

Here it is , the end of JULY and NO local retailer, national distributor or online retailer has EVER stocked them.

Is anyone aware of information about what has happened?
I suspect there are alot of 29'er racers waiting on these tires that just never made it to the market?
 

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scyule said:
I race a single speed 29'r and was excited to see Schwalbe announce the 29 inch version of the Rocket Ron was "avalible" in April of this year. ( my favorite 26" tire)
A lighter, and in my opinion, better tread patterned tire than the Small Block Eight which is the race 29 standard at this point.

The THING is:

Here it is , the end of JULY and NO local retailer, national distributor or online retailer has EVER stocked them.

Is anyone aware of information about what has happened?
I suspect there are alot of 29'er racers waiting on these tires that just never made it to the market?
They have made it to market. Just a very limited run.

Schwalbe is out of stock and waiting for delivery of the latest version with revised rubber compounds. Same goes for the 29" Nobby Nic.
 

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Outsider said:
Funny, I thought the 29" Schwalbe tires made it to the US before they became available in Europe. At least Bike-components.de have Rocket Ron 29x2.25 on stock.
After a German magazine tire test this spring the interest in 29" tires surged so stock was sent to Europe. No idea how quickly it has actually sold.

The US stock sold out almost immediately.
 

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shiggy said:
After a German magazine tire test this spring the interest in 29" tires surged so stock was sent to Europe. No idea how quickly it has actually sold.

The US stock sold out almost immediately.
A link to the German Tire test? Very much interested in seeing what they found. I'm on a borrowed set now, and was wondering if my legs were lying to me, or do they really roll that fast with so little rolling resistance. On dirt, they felt less rolling resistance, ever so slight, than the Racing Ralphs, which I ran side by side with the Rocket Ron. Just my perspective, I'd like to see test results to confirm or deny my perception.
 

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A link to the German Tire test? Very much interested in seeing what they found. I'm on a borrowed set now, and was wondering if my legs were lying to me, or do they really roll that fast with so little rolling resistance. On dirt, they felt less rolling resistance, ever so slight, than the Racing Ralphs, which I ran side by side with the Rocket Ron. Just my perspective, I'd like to see test results to confirm or deny my perception.
I do not have it and really do not care for their testing methods. But it is VERY important in the German market as they seem to believe in lab test results more than actual on-trail performance.

Reportedly the test show that the 29er tires are more efficient than even their most beloved 26" models.

You can do your own tests. Time yourself over the same loop with each tire. Try each tire at different inflation pressures while you are at it. There is more to a "fast" tire than just low rolling resistance.
 
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...it is VERY important in the German market as they seem to believe in lab test results more than actual on-trail performance.
I doubt that. Valuing lab data doesn't have to come at the expense of anything else.
 

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I doubt that. Valuing lab data doesn't have to come at the expense of anything else.
My point is that many German consumers will not even consider trying a product unless it tests well in the lab.

Others in the industry have said this in the past.
 

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shiggy said:
My point is that many German consumers will not even consider trying a product unless it tests well in the lab.

Others in the industry have said this in the past.
This is very true. I lived and raced in Europe for a couple of years. "Scientific" product testing is critical in how consumer products are marketed and perceived in Germany. This goes for everything, including bike stuff. It was, to me, a peculiar aspect of German culture.

But anyway. Looking forward to trying the RR for a race tire when it's available. Schwalbes have always treated me well.
 

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shiggy said:
My point is that many German consumers will not even consider trying a product unless it tests well in the lab.

Others in the industry have said this in the past.
This quote is from BikeRumor in a story about the new Hutchinson offerings...better late than never...
http://www.bikerumor.com/category/29er/
"For the mountain bike side, they're starting to grow their 29er line now that the German Off-Road Series has finally decided to allow 29ers in their races, which has spurred market growth for big wheel mountain bikes there."

As for the OP, I saw some RoRo's at Bike Bling awhile back. Check out the website and give them a call. They had 29" Schwalbe NN, FF & RaRa's also. They may have sold them already, but it's worth a try.
 
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shiggy said:
My point is that many German consumers will not even consider trying a product unless it tests well in the lab.
That's a interesting point. Suggesting that Germans don't value "actual on-trail performance" was not.
 

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craigsj said:
That's a interesting point. Suggesting that Germans don't value "actual on-trail performance" was not.
You are twisting my words again. I said "they seem to believe in lab test results more than actual on-trail performance." Does not at all mean they do not value real world performance.

The general attitude is not limited to Germans. I hear many riders have issues with something but say they continue to use it because they heard/read it is great. Or will replace something that is working because they heard/read that it is not good.
 

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Thanks Guys...... Starbikes does , in fact , have them...... Shipping to Canada might be a bit prohibitive.... The wait is on
 
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You are twisting my words again. I said "they seem to believe in lab test results more than actual on-trail performance." Does not at all mean they do not value real world performance.
Are you saying that these test results are of substantial value? If not, then how much would be less than that? Just what would your protest be?

You are free to argue semantics if you like, but it's interesting why you would denigrate Germans for caring about test results. Would it be different if they used your tire data instead?
 

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Are you saying that these test results are of substantial value? If not, then how much would be less than that? Just what would your protest be?

You are free to argue semantics if you like, but it's interesting why you would denigrate Germans for caring about test results. Would it be different if they used your tire data instead?
Your semantical arguing is not worth replying to.

42t's reply confirmed my opinions
 
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shiggy said:
Your semantical arguing is not worth replying to.

42t's reply confirmed my opinions
I don't see anywhere that 42t confirmed your assertion that Germans care less about actual trail performance than lab testing.

It doesn't surprise me, though, that you'd duck my questions.
 
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