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· Expert Crasher
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Padre said:
Looks like a beauty. I hope it doesn't suffer from short-head-tube-syndrome.
Here's a pic of the head tube, with this quote from the blog
That said, we're still a long way from final production, and there could be many small tweaks between now and then. So, don't be too hasty in the rush to judgement. Still, for the most part, the following photos are going to be pretty damn close to what hits the showrooms in the fall:

105mm VPP travel, carbon fiber, target weight "very light", missing the super-sano little stainless steel chainstay protector plate, some graphic tweaks still to come, this is the very first sample frame. Showed up here friday mid-day.






Top tube, top view. Tapered head tube - 1 1/8" inset upper headset bearing, 1.5" lower. Whole lotta swoop going on in that top tube...


 

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Man, makin a decision on which FS 29er to buy is going to be tough! I was pumped about the new Epic, then I was floored by the fly 100, now this! I mean when I rode 26ers I frickin loved my 1st gen Blur. It did every thing I asked it to do as a trail bike and was a great race bike as well. I ended up selling that ride to a buddy (who's still ridin it to this day) and getting a Blur LT and I frickin loved that too! Do some all mountain stuff one weekend then put some lite race wheels on it and do a 24 hr race the next. This Tall Boy thing ( kind of a cheese dick name if you ask me but wtf, like the man says, like the beer can) looks sweet, oh well better start makin some phone calls.
 

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SC is like Pivot cycles- they offer only one 29er a unspeakable number of 26ers. Thus just one 29er will not be meticilously desugned as if it were when they offered 10 29ers with a most range of travel.
Unspeakable

I can't tell about bb30 - looks like there might be threads in the bb? You'd think that if it was a bb30 frame they'd run a bb30 crank in the proto...
 

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Well, this has gone around to a few 29er riding friends and we all agree that the bike is beautiful but the name is absolutely terrible. Way to name a top end bike after cheap a$$ , low class beer SC!
The orange is OK but let's hope they make another color or two. If they make orange only it'll greatly limit the people that'll buy that frame. It doesn't seem like the 29er fans out there are much for flashy bikes.
 

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Holy Crap - It is a sample frame, chill out all you people slagging on the thing already (crap name, crap color etc. etc.).

I dig the name and the color. Orange bikes kick ass.

Nice job Santy Cruz!
 

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OK, my question is................Does SC really feel that this is what people are looking for in a 29er? :skep: Personally I think stepping into the 29er market with a (I'd guess) $2700-$3k frame would not be a good plan, but maybe that's what SC fan boys want. I can sort of understand using the CF to maybe add strength and rigidity, but there's Hydro Forming for alu which would produce a cheaper frame :???:
 

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Production color and name...

This has been verified in SC's blog so it is fact. I put the good and the bad as usual. IMO, their VPP suspension is the best feeling design out there but I was bit by the 29er bug last year so I'm currently riding an XL Superfly and a L RX 29er. Both are great bikes but the RX just doesn't have the snap that I expected. I've been waiting for SC to make this frame.

MMcG said:
Holy Crap - It is a sample frame, chill out all you people slagging on the thing already (crap name, crap color etc. etc.).

I dig the name and the color. Orange bikes kick ass.

Nice job Santy Cruz!
 

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I'm a fan of the carbon

I've ridden similar designs in carbon and aluminum and really prefer the ride of carbon even in FS bikes. The carbon adds a level of vibration absorption and incredible stiffnes that you just can't get with aluminum. Given that I'm 6'4", 230 lbs and really like to power my bike through tough sections both characteristics are very important to me. I had a Trance AL and Trance Adv carbon and the carbon version was a far smoother, stiffer AND faster ride.

That being said, I agree that it would be nice if SC made this frame in aluminum so they can hit 2 price points.

I'm really looking forward to trying this bike if I can get my hands on one. 29ers are very rare up here in Vancouver so there's a pretty slim chance of me getting to try one. I even had to drive down to Portland to demo and buy my Superflly.

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OK, my question is................Does SC really feel that this is what people are looking for in a 29er? :skep: Personally I think stepping into the 29er market with a (I'd guess) $2700-$3k frame would not be a good plan, but maybe that's what SC fan boys want. I can sort of understand using the CF to maybe add strength and rigidity, but there's Hydro Forming for alu which would produce a cheaper frame :???:
 

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LyNx said:
OK, my question is................Does SC really feel that this is what people are looking for in a 29er? :skep: Personally I think stepping into the 29er market with a (I'd guess) $2700-$3k frame would not be a good plan, but maybe that's what SC fan boys want. I can sort of understand using the CF to maybe add strength and rigidity, but there's Hydro Forming for alu which would produce a cheaper frame :???:
I think this is pretty much state of the art, in the truest sense.

For anyone with the money to spend on the frame, I think that this would be the best bike available. I seriously doubt that it will be 3k, Lynx, as the 26" Blur XC Carbon is 2400 @ speedgoat. I'd imagine it will have the same pricepoint.

This looks like a seriously awesome bike, which means that all of the MTBR types will whine about it, and keep riding their Monocogs with flat pedals, bellies flapping in the wind.
 

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I think this is pretty much state of the art, in the truest sense.

For anyone with the money to spend on the frame, I think that this would be the best bike available. I seriously doubt that it will be 3k, Lynx, as the 26" Blur XC Carbon is 2400 @ speedgoat. I'd imagine it will have the same pricepoint.

This looks like a seriously awesome bike, which means that all of the MTBR types will whine about it, and keep riding their Monocogs with flat pedals, bellies flapping in the wind.
Yup, I agree with the playpunk. Friggin haters might not need one but I think it looks like a contender for my money this fall. I have loved every one of my SC bikes. In fact I still own them all. Even the old SC frames hanging in my garage have fond memories that's why I still have them. The boys at SC know what they're doing.
 

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"Pretty much" state of the art but not quite. Some may disagree but I think they missed adding a direct mount front derailleur and some version of the press fit bbs. I like the direct mount FD because it you don't need to stick with a round seat tube and you get easy alignment. Press fit bb's are nice because you can use a larger spindle and never have to worry about poorly faced bb's or crappy threads.
Neither is a deal breaker though.
 

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Nice,

Love the name, love the color. Assuming I dig my first 29er (RX on the way...) I could see this being a winter purchase after any bugs are worked out.
 

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For those wanting an aluminum version, it's called an Intense Spider 29er. ;) :D

I see they managed to eek out .13 inches more than 4 for travel. Interesting.

I'm going to guess that this will be one of the more spendy 29"er offerings. Right up there with the Superfly 100, I'm sure. Crazy stuff in today's economy.

As for the name "Tall Boy"..........well. :rolleyes: That won't matter one whit if it turns out to be an outstanding ride. Time will tell.

It's a cool bike, no doubt. Can't wait to see one in the flesh.
 
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