[half_man_half_scab]

So I went in to my LBS the other day to see if they would be able to order the 7.5"i2i and 1.75" stroke length RP23 that comes off of the Cannondale Rush as a replacement for the Triad II. The manager, though he said he would order it if I really wanted, tried to talk me out of it, citing the fact that the RP23 had a different air volume in the sleeve, and proceeded to tell me that this would likely cause more bottoming out.

Does this make sense to anyone? The mechanics of how shocks work might as well be magic to me.

And exactly what year and model of Rush is it? Is it an 06 or an 07? Cannodale's website is pretty vague.

 

[245044]

That's bull$hit!!! At least as far as the bottoming issue.

I have one on my Stumpy and it's far better than that POS Triad was ever hoping to be. Running the same air pressure ,as I did in the Triad, produces less travel and sag in the RP23. The trail feel is absolutely incredible as bob is not even detectable. Even in open position, the shock feels more efficient than the Triad did in lockout. The bike is truely an all-around bike for me now. It's good everywhere from fireroads to singletrack.

Tell them to order it. It will be the best "bike money" you spend all year.

 

[z71]

Yea he fed you a line there. I had a Fox Float R off a Cannondale Rush on my FSR XC Pro and it was way better than the Triad. I still have it if anyone needs one. I have a Fox Float R with Remote Brain now on my Stumpy Expert and that shock is awsome.

 

[Lumbee1]

So I went in to my LBS the other day to see if they would be able to order the 7.5"i2i and 1.75" stroke length RP23 that comes off of the Cannondale Rush as a replacement for the Triad II. The manager, though he said he would order it if I really wanted, tried to talk me out of it, citing the fact that the RP23 had a different air volume in the sleeve, and proceeded to tell me that this would likely cause more bottoming out.

Does this make sense to anyone? The mechanics of how shocks work might as well be magic to me.

And exactly what year and model of Rush is it? Is it an 06 or an 07? Cannodale's website is pretty vague.

This is a common problem for me now. After lots of research, I typically know more information about the product and product lines than most people. It drives me nuts when I ask for something in particular only to have them say it won't work or it needs to be done this way.

Mechs at bike shops and Computer technicians are the worst. They think they know everything and typically pass bad information and ideas on to other people. They repeat it so often they believe it themselves and what happens with product A must happen with product B.

Unfortunately, when I was young and worked at BestBuy, I often embarrassed myself when I came across people that knew a lot more than me. I would ramble on with marketing information only to have the customer correct me. Since then I have made it a point to know what I was talking about before opening my mouth and "acting" like an expert.

BTW, the RP23 will work GREAT on the Stumpy :thumbsup:

 

[half_man_half_scab]

So does anyone know exactly which Rush I should point to so the LBS doesn't F it up?

And what is your riding weight, PSI and sag setting mopartodd?

 

[gjabo178]

From Cannondale's website they have a Float R on the Rush(?) that's the right size too.
Anyone know what that would cost? If the RP23 is going to cost $365 maybe the Float is a better option.
Thoughts

 

[Lumbee1]

From Cannondale's website they have a Float R on the Rush(?) that's the right size too.
Anyone know what that would cost? If the RP23 is going to cost $365 maybe the Float is a better option.
Thoughts

From a previous report on the Enduro SL having too many settings to mess with, I have been reconsidering the RP23. I think the Float R might be a better option due to it's simplicity. The RP23 has 4 settings, 3 levels of propedal and open. I honestly don't switch that much between propedal and open (both suck) on the Triad, so how much am I going to switch between 4 settings on the RP23?

 

[245044]

Riding weight is 225#, sag I have set at 0.4" and I can't recall for the life of me what the PSI is right now. It's around 230-240 PSI I think. This is a little shorter than what Fox lists, but I prefer the feel of the extra pressure.

 

[half_man_half_scab]

Well, on the plus side, at least we'll never be able to accidently knock it into locked anymore.

 

[245044]

From a previous report on the Enduro SL having too many settings to mess with, I have been reconsidering the RP23. I think the Float R might be a better option due to it's simplicity. The RP23 has 4 settings, 3 levels of propedal and open. I honestly don't switch that much between propedal and open (both suck) on the Triad, so how much am I going to switch between 4 settings on the RP23?

You probably won't switch much at all, if any once you found your sweet spot. I've found that I set the pressure, leave it in Propedal setting #2. It covers me in every situation. I did try the #3 setting the other day at LC, and it was hardtail-like.

 

[half_man_half_scab]

So I found the geometry link on the Cannondale website. All of the Rushes 1-5 as well as the team have 7.5" i2i and 1.75" stroke. An interesting sidenote for those of you who don't want too many settings, the Rush 4 shock is an RP2 with just a single propedal and open setting. That sounds like an intriguing option to me, does anyone know the what an RP2 would go for? I can ask my shop, if not.

 

[gjabo178]

Yeah, find out about the RP2 and the R if you don't mind.

 

[z71]

I have a Float R from a 07 Cannodale Rush it has the internal firm pro pedal if someone is looking for one. I really do not need it anymore.

 

[gjabo178]

"internal firm pro pedal"
What the h3ll is that?

 

[z71]

That means that the pro pedal is internal valving you cannot adjust it.They have it set from the factory that way. You can get the Float R's in firm,medium or soft pro pedal.

 

[d365]

mopartodd.......

does the rp23 just swap out with the triad, or do you have to order special adaptor kits, bushings, and/or bolts?

 

[yoopermon]

From the get-go, I was not happy with my '06 SJ FSR Expert's Triad shock. The lock-out setting is a joke - what you get instead is this undamped bobbing that made it unusable. At 220 lbs, I needed to pump a heckuva lot of air into it to get the ProPedal to work, and I was always expecting it to blow (it did not during the first year). Otherwise, what a great bike - I was just never happy with the Triad. I just ordered an RP23 7.5 x 1.75 from PUSH - more $$ than a standard one but perhaps tuned more to my weight and riding style. We'll see - I'll report back.

 

[245044]

does the rp23 just swap out with the triad, or do you have to order special adaptor kits, bushings, and/or bolts?

You'll need the correct bushing for the shock which are available from Fox. If you're careful, you might be able to reuse the bushings from the Triad.

yooperman. If you like the FSR now wait until you get the RP23 on there. You'll love it.

 

[magdaddy]

RP23 fan here too

you'll love your Pushed RP23, they do build magic.

Your first ride, hell your first few pedal strokes will demonstrate to you that you made a wise investment. The season ended here in Central New York-got my last rides here into the first week of Janruary-before I got the RP23 adjusted. I settled on Pro pedal position #3, was playing with sag and psi stil.

Whole new bike, worth every penny. The next time someone ask's for mod advice for a Triad eqpt Stumpy, instead of my usual go tubeless-get a better wheelset ramble, I will reccomend the shock replacement.

 

[fifafu]

Before you guy rush to get the rp23, you might like to try running the shock a little higher. I ran mine at 35psi higher than recommended and found that, at least, in my opinion, the PP work better and the lockout fare better to actually not warrant spending another US$400 on the shock.

And the money I saved for the shock, I spend it on XTR disc brake, F N R Derailluer and I top up another $400 for XTR cassette, shifter and wheelset and I think its better money than the RP23.

Now my bike is 24.4lbs with stock parts except the above changes. The shifting's better and more moderation for my braking!