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I am running old RVL 100-130 in my new BLT2. My bike is a classic all-mountain set up, and it’s ridden all-mountain. Most of the time (on "flat" terrain) I ride it somewhere between 120-130mm, going further down on climbs. On the other hand I would appreciate longer forks on steep descents.
I am looking now at those two options from RockShox, as follows:
1) Revelation model, U-Turn 110-140 (maxlite) or
2) “new” model, 120-150 (maxlite as well).
Option 2 should provide more confidence on descents, option 1 more confidence on ascents.

Given that I am running my current RVL mostly between 120 (close to I believe) and 130 on “flat” terrain I am wondering if I will miss 110 on ascents, when I go with 120-150.

So… shortly (almost) can’t sleep, can’t make any decision, can’t eat… ;) Any suggestion highly appreciated! What would you chose?
 

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I rode a BLT2 with a Pike 454 air set to 140 and it climbed fine, any thing shorter would help but it was not needed on my ride which included some really steep gruelling stuff. I did feel on the steep down hill more travel would have been nice, so my humble opinion would be to go for the 150rev as 120 would be fine for climbing if you needed it, I'm a fan of the FoxTalas 36 that gives you 100,130,160mm just a bit more weight.
 

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jeffus said:
I'm a fan of the FoxTalas 36 that gives you 100,130,160mm just a bit more weight.
Yes, that's another option I am pondering on. Talas 36 or even talas 32 looks nice, however I am big RS' dual-air fan. Not to mention I can perform complete RS fork service at home, it takes me on average 30min - 1 hour…

Talas 36, Marzocchi 55 ata are, for sure, stiffer but at a expense of 0.5kg average, compared to talas 32 and rvl.
If I take RVL I would go with maxlite, which seams to be perfect solution for all mountain riding.

Indeed FOX covers travel range perfectly.

Anyway, I have been waiting for RVL 120-150 but recently I realized I could grab 110-140 even today, no more waiting. That made things a little more complex ;)
 

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I run the Fox Talas 32 150mm with 15mm thru axle and love. It works great on up and downhills alike. DT Swiss also has a 150mm with flight control which works similar to the Talas but really expensive.:thumbsup:
 

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I'm kind of thinking that if you feel you need a 110 or 120 to climb your BLT2, you may be on the wrong bike...or your technique is wrong. The 120-150 Rev should be more than enough lattitude. The BLT2 is designed to function well all the way to 160mm. We've built up some BLT2's with forks up to 140 and 150 at this point. The guy with the 140mm Pike U-Turn on his hardly ever even touches his travel adjust, as it climbs like a goat as is. I think he'd jump on the new Rev 120-150 in a heartbeat.
 

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osobny, I'm also a big fan of RS I have a Lyric coil, Revelation dual air maxle lite, Argyle solo air, all great forks, go to say the Talas system has been working great for me on those,long AM rides, I've ridden the Lyric for the past 12 months and reluctantly decided to try a Fox Talas and I'm really impressed the versatility of the travel adjust, the Lyric was ok just wind it but the flick of a lever is soo quick, the Lyric does have the edge when running at 160mm really soaks every thing up , but both are really stiff and track awesome, but as you say a bit of a weight penalty.
 

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TNC: I believe my technique definitely could be better, no doubt about it! But when I am speaking about steep ascents I am speaking about something similar to this here below - it's altitude graph generated by polar soft. Steep ascents with roots and stones - classic for mountains I usually ride.
In these conditions you may experience "flying front wheel" even when on racy hardtail, with bars significantly below saddle.
Therefore "low" forks give me confidence, I don't need to think all the time about keeping my front wheel on the ground. I would better enjoy landscapes or… nice (especially female) companion ;)

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Jeffus: Thanks for recommendation, I've spotted Talas of course. A friend of my has got Talas 32, every time we meet he is singing thanksgiving songs how good his Talas is. I couldn't believe one can see big improvement over Lyrik, though. Among those 36 forks family Talas 36 is indeed on the lightest end.

Oh GOD ;)
 

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I've ridden one for a year at 140 fixed. Never even thought about going lower. Going with the 150 on the LT2c and I'm just lowering the bars 10mm to compensate. It should rock.
 

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I've ridden one for a year at 140 fixed. Never even thought about going lower. Going with the 150 on the LT2c and I'm just lowering the bars 10mm to compensate. It should rock.
Right. But please keep in mind this new setup will slacken your geometry. General rule is +-10mm of A2C coresponds with +-0.5 deg. Therefore I am pondering on 120-150 RVL U-Turn...

Please report once you get it!
 

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osobny said:
Right. But please keep in mind this new setup will slacken your geometry. General rule is +-10mm of A2C coresponds with +-0.5 deg. Therefore I am pondering on 120-150 RVL U-Turn...

Please report once you get it!
Well aware and I welcome the slacker geo. Especially for the steeper stuff I ride at times.
 

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I have Van 36s at 160mm on my LT2 and they're great. When it comes down to it, most of us ride up mountains mainly so we can bomb down ,& the 36s give you that bit more confidence to mow lines.
Interestingly, I'm just as quick down on my LT2 as I was on the old nomad with a coil shock in rough techy trails as long as I'm riding well. As soon as I pick a couple of bad lines I notice the slight lack of forgiveness. The nomad was a bit better at glossing over my inadequacies (but noticably slower on uphill & flat tracks)
 

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NoahColorado said:
I believe there is only a 4mm a-t-c increase with the new 150 Revelation.
That's interesting! 4mm a2c diff between 140 and (new) 150? Where did you find it?
 

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I have Van 36s at 160mm on my LT2 and they're great. When it comes down to it, most of us ride up mountains mainly so we can bomb down ,& the 36s give you that bit more confidence to mow lines.
Thanks tj1 - apparently need to run second decision loop and maybe include 36
 

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osobny said:
That's interesting! 4mm a2c diff between 140 and (new) 150? Where did you find it?
Makes sense given it is using a Reba type, rather than a Pike type, crown. That fork is looking better and better by the moment.
 

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Have a look at this thread I started in the SRAM forums:
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=526061

someone stated 9mm longer there. Also there´s a nice table with all 2009 a-cs of the Rock Shox forks.

Actually I´d prefer the Revelation 150mm to be about 530mm a-c. That would be perfect for the Heckler and the LT2 I guess.

I have a 2009 36 Talas RC2 on mine. I like the fork and run it at 130mm for anything except the DHs.
But I´d love the 1750g of the Dual Air Revelation and I´d get one as a backup/spare fork or whatever ;)

Greetings znarf
 

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Hi,
how did you set your Float to 150mm.
I know how it works, I just want to know where you got the travel spacers.
Are they available or did you make your own?

Greetings Znarf
 

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Znarf said:
I have a 2009 36 Talas RC2 on mine. I like the fork and run it at 130mm for anything except the DHs.
But I´d love the 1750g of the Dual Air Revelation and I´d get one as a backup/spare fork or whatever ;)

Greetings znarf
This is verbatim what I would say! I do love a 36 idea (talas, 55s or lyric) but I am aware of weight penalty. Just can't still persuade myself to go 36 way… because my current setup is only 12.43kg (27.4 lbs); Large ano with Mavic wheelset.

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I probably do confine myself in shopping ;) and wait for RVL 120-150. Maxle Lite option should be pretty stiff, shouldn't it? Anyway, I am coming from QR so don't expect any disappointment from RVL-Maxle Lite combo.

Ban, your setup looks sexy indeed!
 
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