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I've been riding a Slayer 90 15" for the last 2 years and have come to the realization that my frame is too small for me (I purchased it from my lbs recommendation, which was a mistake). I'm 5'5" 170 lbs, so after a real bike fitting I'm looking for a new frame, Medium or 16.5", Looking for a trail bike that can handle some small drops like 2 ft max but still can catch up to some of my biking buddies on the uphills and corners. After looking at XC bikes I think those would break with my aggressive riding, also there are no Turner/RM/ or Canfield dealers in my area so I cant really try them out. Soooo I want to pick your brains, looking to add a Light weight Crossmax Rims with a Fox 32 F120 Fork and Carbon Seatpost and handlebar. Which bike would you recommend:

1. Rocky Mountain Slayer SXC - 16.5"
2. Turner 5 Spot - Med
3. Canfield Brothers Sauce - Med

Thx again for your time in reading this.


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I'd go for the Turner over the others. You'll be getting a superior built frame that will last & take abuse. Plus you get the fourbar suspension & the suppleness that goes with it.
 

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Turners are no longer 4 bar

Turners are well made frames with great customer service. They are no longer four bar designs though. They are a faux bar, essentially a single pivot design with a rocker link. Ride well enough but in my mind, very expensive for what you are getting.
I have owned rocky mountain and Canfield bikes and would not say that the Turner frame is better than either as far as build quality. They are great, but really, so are the other two or you would not be comparing them.

I like the canfield suspension design. Parallel linkage gives you a laterally stiffer rear end and you don't have to deal with brake induced suspension movement (same as a true 4 bar, but parallel is stiffer than 4 bar because there is no pivot back by the hub).

You know how the slayer rides so if you like it or want more, go that route. It is also a single pivot design. I can't say enough good about the customer service of both Turner and Canfield Brothers. Both are renown and both will satisfy your needs. For my money, I would go with the Canfield as I think it is a superior suspension design and doesn't give up anything to the others in other categories.
 

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To poster above - there is no such thing as "faux bar"... Its a specialised marketing department attempt to put down the other design.


Both horst link, and seatstay pivot designs are four bar designs, (and btw, I do agree that horst is better). A properly implemented four-bar seatstay frame will still be a very good ride, just not as good (imo - to some people the opposite) as a properly implemented horstlink design.

Different sus designs feel better to different people - some people like the characteristics of FSR, fourbar (seatstay pivot), Maestro, DW... Its all personal - the best way to find out is to try them all :)
 

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Hmm.. Well the one downside I've learned about owning a Rocky Mountain in South Florida is there is no dealer around here and the few bike shops I've worked with say Rocky has been a pain to deal with for parts for my Slayer. The Canfield on otherhand, the owners themselves make themselves availble to customers which I think shows there support for there product. Turner, I know a few shops who have worked on them and like the service.. So I guess I'm leaning more toward the Canfield as it's a more "unique" bike then the Turner. But there is a large lack of reviews for the Canfield Sauce bike.
 

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Sauce is a brand new bike

So yeah, not much out there for reviews. Call or email Chris Canfield, he has a biased opinion of course being the owner, but is really good at giving you a real world answer to your questions.
I actually recently was talking with Chris and he was talking about losing his trail bike. He had a guy who worked with Specialized ask him to borrow his Sauce to check it out. A few days later he called Chris and said that he is not getting the bike back. Bought it out from under him.

And I know 'faux bar' is a made up term but the nice thing about using it is that everybody knows what you are talking about. 4 bar but not Horst link.
 

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I wouldn't put anything shorter than a 140mm fork on any of those bikes.

Personally I'd go for the Turner, but would be pretty interested in trying the Sauce too.
 

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My vote would be the sauce. Canfield brothers have a great reputation of building some unreal bikes. Plus the sauce is a small version of the "One" which I might add that Lance personally took it off the Mushroom drop out in Utah by accident. He was enjoying the bike so much he forgot what bike he was on. Another plus is there new and improve suspension design. If you email Chris or Lance they can explain what they have done and how the linkage works so that you have a clear understanding. I don't want to explain it cause I don't wanna screw it up. All I know is that there is no chaingrowth or minimal, and that it tracks very well due to the wheelpath the linkage puts it through. You should just go with a light build/frame version of the One. Sauce might not fit all the agressive riding you will encounter once you get more confidnet on the bike.

As for the other bikes like yo mentioned Rocky will give you a bit of a hard time since they have barley any dealers here in the U.S. of A.
Here in AZ turners are as rare as seeing specialized. So i would go with a more unique bike that can do as much as any other bikes and a bag of chips.

And to add to evidence to my biase opinion I just got a jedi so go ahead and support the small bike company's.
 

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I think you might take a look at your bike again - I'm 5'7" and I'm riding a small Moment frame and I don't feel it's too small at all. Perhaps your cockpit is just not effective for you. There are several control points that you could look at like the stem, bar height and seatpost offset to perhaps tweek the fit of your bike.

RM may make short frames though - Ellsworth always seems to be a bit long in the TT which makes the smalls fit me better. Though, med sized frames work for me, too. I'm on the cusp with that particular manufacturer. So before you buy a new bike, see what kind of measurements your current bike has - you could be getting too much of a change.
 

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hello there,

slayer sxc is awesome -
better construction than the "new" slayer 2006/07 models
they use only 145mm and not 152mm ... 2 years and noone checked it ?

a turner would be the best choice - i think - good old design - handmade?
someone knew how i can get one ... without high fees (i´m from europe)?

canfield looks very very nice ... little bit like an titanium frame ...
 

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A couple bikes that fit your criteria are the Banshee Rune and Pyre

I too and 5'5" and the small Rune is a perfect fit.

They both use a VPP type linkage, the Rune weighs 7.2lbs with shock and hardware and can take all the abuse you might have in store for it. I climbs like a mountain goat and is a dream on the descents and rails like a go-cart.

If 6" is too much, there is also the Banshee Pyre that is a 5" version and touch lighter.
Everyone I know that has thrown a leg over one wants one in their bike stable.

Have a look, you'll be very surprised by how good of bikes they are.

https://www.bansheebikes.com/

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I think the Turners and Canfields are the ones to consider. Have you tried riding them ? Both are going to ride quite well. Maybe email Jason from Sicklines who did a review of the One not too long ago which is the same exact design but less travel.
 
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