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My right foot.... I can write a book on this stupid right foot of mine.

I am the proud reciepient of another stress fracture. The fourth time in two years. This is really getting old. I will be back into the black boot for the next 4 to 6 weeks.

My current doctor asked if I was doing something extreme in my work or hobbies. I told him what type of bike I ride, and he said to switch over to a road bike. The pressure on the foot may be the reason for the fracture.

I am going to set an appointment with a sports doctor who specializes in feet problems.

Anybody else out there have this problem? I am only 48.

-JS-
 

· Cracker-magnon
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Man, that sucks, especially with all those nice rides you have. Think bone density might be a problem? Have all the fractures occurred in the same foot?

Let me know if you need some one to ride you bikes for you :)

Heal fast.
 

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Hi Jerry,
THAT sucks. I can't imagine having to take that much time off of the bike.
I know that often times doctors prescribe aquatic rehad since it takes load off of the injured area.
Not sure if you have any to lose.. but if you had excess, perhaps trimming down some could help your foot stay together more?
just thinking...
 

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Stress fractures are a right PITA. I hate them but have only had one - but I was off the bike for too long. I had to endure being in a half leg cast for over a month!!! In my case it was from sprinting on a track all summer (Athletics) in a pair of very minimal spikes.

I would think your shoes could be an issue. When clipped into a bike whilst you are apply pressure, your foot shouldn't be having so much pressure exerted on it that you are getting a stress fracture. In contrast when running, each stride is exerting a great deal of stress on my upper 1/3 of my foot (Dont know the name) but in cycling this is being spread over my entire foot.

See a professional - they will help.

Take care and recover.
 

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Stopped drinking milk years ago....

dodjy said:
The incus, malleus, and stapes are not located in the foot, or leg for that matter. ;)

Hey Jerry-- Do you drink enough milk or take supplemental calcium?

dd..''
I would wake up every morning and cough out a lung of gunk. I stopped drinking milk and that problem went away.

I try to eat a balanced diet and concentrate on dark colored veggies. I also take a one a day supplement.

I am going to see a sports physician and get some advice. It doesn't help that my right foot sticks out to the right at a 45 degree angle due to a car accident years ago......
 

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Most people don't know this, but

If you take the correct calcium supplement vitamin, I think the one with Vitamin D, you can totally replace your entire bone mass in 8 years. I know some people have issues with lactose/milk products, but maybe some immunology shots could help with the milk issue.
On the injury and I'll call it non-healing, I would definitely look at the shoes you've been wearing. It really sounds like the soles are not stiff enough over the broad base of your foot. I obviously don't know what shoes you wear, but I know that the Shimano shoes are really stiff, along with the Specialized shoes. I feel for you, I really do. I have an extremely nagging problem with my right big toe. It only becomes a problem when my shoes develope a wear pattern consistent with having a pronating gate. It gets so bad that about every 4-6 months I have to buy a new pair of metatarsal work boots...pricey at about $150 a pop.
Anyway Jerry, I truly hope that you can shake that problem of yours. Remember, ibuprofen is the wonder drug when taken religiously at 400-600 mg every four hours. Make sure that you are drinking plenty of water and stay away from the usual suspects of gout...liver, heavy doses of beer(who could manage that!!), lots of steak and the like. Some foot problems are related to gout-like symptoms and injuries have also been attributed to the like as well. As said above, see a specialist (podiatrist), he/she will be most helpful.
Good luck Jerry!! Another way to thwart some of your body's interior problems is with brain power...a positive outlook is some of the best medicine...keep your chin up and heal well!
 

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Could pedals be attributable to the problem?

If I recall correctly I thing SS Jerry uses Speedplay Frogs with a decent amount of float. Some people complain of those pedals for knee injuries.
 

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A subtle clue here

SS Jerry said:
It doesn't help that my right foot sticks out to the right at a 45 degree angle due to a car accident years ago......
Maybe you have answered your question right there. Even the mightest of float on speedplays or older Time ATACs wouldn't compensate for that. It makes sense why a SS would create higher stress in the area: the torque values are so high. Since you probably have some biomechanical issues related to the statement above, you are placing a high degree of stress on parts of your foot that are not built to handle it. So, you get a stress fracture, an ankle sprain, or whatever. Don't know if you can "fix" it, but I bet the problem can be improved so you can minimize the chance of an stress fracture next time. Chat with the Ortho and maybe have him/her suggest a Physical Therapist who's good with foot/ankle problems. And, yes you guessed it, that's what I do. Good luck to ya!
 

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I have an appointment with the PT dept in two weeks....

Talking it over with a doctor, he suggests flatter pedals with more foot area. I wear a size 45 1/2 Mega Sidi shoe so it is stiff enough. I do use frog speedplays and the float allows me to almost straighten out the foot on the pedal. I am also going to see a specialist for the foot and see what he has to offer.

I might have to alter a cleat or build an adapter for the pedal. I wonder how that would feel, a 180 on the left side and a 177.5 on the right with an adapter plate under the shoe....?

Until then, it is rest the foot, lots of ibu#@%^&* and living vicariously through your exploits.

Lesson learned today : Don't play the sympathy game with your wife....

"Honey... can you all fetch me a sammich or somthin' good ta eat.... my foot is hurtin' agin"

wife responds.... "you got two feet, use the other one and hop......"

Man, I love a strong willed woman....

Have a good weekend all

-JS-
 

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SS Jerry said:
I would wake up every morning and cough out a lung of gunk. I stopped drinking milk and that problem went away.

I try to eat a balanced diet and concentrate on dark colored veggies. I also take a one a day supplement.

I am going to see a sports physician and get some advice. It doesn't help that my right foot sticks out to the right at a 45 degree angle due to a car accident years ago......
... is the easiest way to get calcium in your system without resorting to dairy. My wife eats these caramel calcium chews. Her family has a history of Ostio.
 

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Wow...I must have been lucky. I fractured the fifth metatarsal (the one on the outside of the foot...I don't mean I've broken five of them :) on my right foot three years ago, and only had to use a 'wooden shoe' for eight weeks. I even rode around some with it on.

Of course, that injury was due to drunken hide-and-go-seek, not riding.

Good luck with your recovery, I hope you get something figured out!
 

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dodjy said:
The incus, malleus, and stapes are not located in the foot, or leg for that matter. ;)

Hey Jerry-- Do you drink enough milk or take supplemental calcium?

dd..''
Actually, you have ossicles in your foot, just next to the pad under the big toe.

Quite painful when they break from stress-related activities. Just ask your neighborhood gymnast.
 

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Zonic Man said:
Actually, you have ossicles in your foot, just next to the pad under the big toe.

Quite painful when they break from stress-related activities. Just ask your neighborhood gymnast.
Ossicles are in your middle ear.

Actually you are thinking of the Lateral Sesamoid - Gymnasts, sprinters and dancers occasionally fracture them doing their respective activities.

In fact in June 2003 I was unfortunate enough to have sclerosis of my lateral sesamoid, with several irregular fragments. It hurt like hell and I have not run since.
 

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Trevor! said:
Ossicles are in your middle ear.

Actually you are thinking of the Lateral Sesamoid - Gymnasts, sprinters and dancers occasionally fracture them doing their respective activities.

In fact in June 2003 I was unfortunate enough to have sclerosis of my lateral sesamoid, with several irregular fragments. It hurt like hell and I have not run since.
Goddamnit.

http://www.wheelessonline.com/ooa1/15.htm

and

http://www.chionline.com/anatomy/anat3.html

Sonofagun man. It's an "accessory bone" in the foot.

Sheesh. You guys are killing me.
 

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Cycling savy PT?

Make sure the PT (or Podiatrist)you see is really savy when it comes to cycling and all the options that are available. I'm guessing that with the right pedals, shoes, and possibly orthotics, cleat shims or even something like kneesavers to adjust your Q factor you can have happy feet.
The whole bone density, issue is worth checking too. You may have a combination of bone weakness and biomechanical problems, fixing either or both will hopefully solve this for you.
Good luck, plan and build another pretty bike while you heal :)
 
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