keepin' it rural
I see a handful of folks getting bikes on Facebook and Instagram, but no ride reports. Anxious to hear some actual feedback on how the bikes ride.
I went from an Ibis HD3 to the Megatrail. I can give you some insight on the differences between the two. I won't be able to give you any insight on the Revved frame until I get mine (size 2).Regarding understeer. One thing you can do weight the front end more is move the stem down a headset spacer(e.g move the spacer above the stem). Not sure which size spacers you are working with. You can go small increments.
Thanks for posting. I am 6'1 and on an extra medium right now (long length). I am happy with my alloy smash. I thought about picking up another gg bike to replace my 2015 ibis hd3(maybe a mega trail).
Pretty much all my same feelings as well. I have learned also that compared to my old bike, tighter corners require a bit more body english. This more than likely comes from the longer wheelbase and could be "helped" by using a shorter offset fork. But after a few rides you get used to it.First ride report (have went on a few rides since but everything below still applies)
Went out for a NTM loop this morning to put a test ride in on the new bike. The new GG carbon Smash was amazing.
Climbing - this was my first climb since the fall so fitness definitely wasn't there but it performed as well or better than any "big bike" I have ridden. The only issue I had was one understeer on a tight switchback but that is most definitely from not being used to the long wheelbase and something that will come together after a few rides once I get a feel for being on a bigger bike. That being said I did like it better than the SB130 I tested. Going up hill, neither wandered but I preferred how the steering felt on the Smash. It was efficient enough with the SD coil that I never even thought to hit the climb switch. It is no XC/Down country bike but I don't think anyone is expecting it to be.
Flat/Rolling terrain - The bike carried speed so well and the coil just stuck the rear end to the ground giving so much traction and a super smooth ride. I was blown away with the MRP ribbon on the singletrack that was rutted out from horse and sneaker tracks. I felt like I was on a smooth road, definitely the best small bump fork I have ridden. I wasn't sure where to mention sizing so I think this is the best place to talk about it. I am 6' with a 6'3" wingspan and the size 3 long postion with a 50mm stem fit me better than the alloy size L with the same size stem. I felt in a more natural position than I did on the large, which I feel like is worth mentioning since I see people worried about sizing. I thought the old L was a perfect fit and I was worried about the new bike being a touch small but I'm very happy with my choice.
Descending - I like goin fast. That decal in the top tube couldn't be more true. This bike crushes on the downs and gave me so much confidence with how responsive and natural it felt. I know people talk about GG not having the most plush ride but I think the trade off is having an extremely responsive ride. I am a little undersprung on the coil at the moment (on a coil for 200lbs but currently around 210lbs geared up) which could have made the ride more plush, but overall definitely no complaints on there being a harsh ride. On straight lines it was a bruiser that felt extremely stable, very similar to a Rocky Mountain Instinct BC or Yeti Sb130. However what I thought it did better was have more maneuverability to pick line choices better than other big bikes, which I was not expecting with the long wheelbase. When I wanted to deviate from the straight line I felt like I was on a smaller bike like an Evil Following MB, Pivot Trail429, or Santa Cruz Tallboy but with the extra insurance of more travel. Overall it was an awesome first time going downhill on the bike but NTM didn't have anything big enough for me to go through more than 80% of the travel (Fork currently at 150mm). I will have to report back on more once I can get to a little bit more rowdy terrain. One part worth noting was on the water bars on the downhills you could choose if you wanted to plow them and the wheel just stuck to the ground or with very minimal effort you could pop off of them. The versatility between playful and going for all out speed was amazing.
I hope this was helpful and answers some questions people had on the new bikes. I will give the disclaimer that it was only an 8 mile ride and I did just buy this bike for 4k. So even though I tried to be as unbiased as possible I know it had to have crept in a bit. Feel free to ask me any questions on the bike, I will be happy to answer (it is all I have been wanting to talk about).
I'm surprised to hear you want to go down 50lbs on that spring. I've got the same shock on a 2018 Smash, I'm probably 5lbs heavier than you and started with a 475lb spring [30% sag] and then tried a 500lb spring [25%sag] - both ride pretty well. If I went any lower I'd be bottoming out like mad.My specs are; 6ft tall, +1.5" apex index, 31" inseam and 190-193# RTR. SD Coil has a 400# spring on it and I am thinking I may give a 350# spring a try down the road just for shits and giggles.
Since one of the bikes I'm downsizing & selling is my HD3, I'd be interested to hear your opinion. My megaTrail build is going to be more of a 1/2 pt between my lift-serve Canfield One and my trail HD3. Why not do everything just a little bit worse?I went from an Ibis HD3 to the Megatrail. I can give you some insight on the differences between the two. I won't be able to give you any insight on the Revved frame until I get mine (size 2).
Yeah I still need to mess with the coil shock to understand it better. I believe I have 15mm of preload, 4 or 5 clicks of low speed don't remember the clicks of rebound.I'm surprised to hear you want to go down 50lbs on that spring. I've got the same shock on a 2018 Smash, I'm probably 5lbs heavier than you and started with a 475lb spring [30% sag] and then tried a 500lb spring [25%sag] - both ride pretty well. If I went any lower I'd be bottoming out like mad.
That's way too much preload. Unscrew the preload collar just until the spring starts to be able to clang around and then just tighten it a turn or two until the spring can't move. Go with the least you can get away.Yeah I still need to mess with the coil shock to understand it better. I believe I have 15mm of preload, 4 or 5 clicks of low speed don't remember the clicks of rebound.
For the preload minimal is the least amount of spring compression. For the LSC I think there is + or - sign and you want it all the way open to start which is all the way to the - side.Ok thanks for the info Vikb. I will give that a shot and see how things transpire.
And just to clarify, when you say minimal of something you mean all the way to the negative side or fast (rabbit) side correct?!
Every 36 I have ridden has felt better than any 34 I have ridden. I prefer the pike and Lyrik over the 34 too. I just have yet to get one of the 34s to feel right at 210#Thinking about a Fox 36, though I wonder if a 34 can take the abuse. I'd really like this bike to be lightweight, but not wanting to compromise stiffness; I'm 200#.
Okay, so fork choices:I'd get the 36, a Lyrik or Ribbon.
Fox 34 with GRIP damper is significantly more subtle than the PIKE RC2. I have had both and preferred the Fox. The PIKE RCT3 is a good fork too; better than the RC versions to be sure. Both Fox 34 Elite GRIP and RCT3 are stiff and don't suffer from stiction. Fox weighs less too. While I haven't ridden the Factory 34 Step-Cast, it should be an amazing fork too.Okay, so fork choices:
MRP Ribbon Air 150, 1888gm
Cane Creek Helm 150, 2070gm
Fox 34 Elite 150, 1770gm
Fox 36 Elite 150, 1997gm
Pike RC2 150, 1850gm
I ride a Pike now with an MRP cartridge, it rides fine
Never had a Fox on my bikes, but my wife has a 36 Elite on her bike and it rides fine
I rode an MRP Coil and didn't like it for teh coil, but it seemed like a good fork, local design is always nice
Never rode a Helm, generally I like Cane Creek, some of their stuff is finicky, the Helm is heavy like a 36, hard to know if it's a better choice.
I am weight conscious, 200gm is nearly 1/2#, which is not a little but of weight on my front end, but too little fork means flex inducing stiction and more deflection.
I'm 200#, old guy, my riding is much more trail these days than agro, staying closer to the ground, still ride fast, mostly chunder, small drops, no park, think Whole Enchilada, Ahab, Mag 7 as my kind of riding.
So the big question: If I felt a Pike was adequate, would a Fox 34 be an equivallent fork? It's the lightest and it "matches" my shock
Otherwise I'm leaning toward the Ribbon Air or Pike, the Helm and 36 seem overkill for a short travel 27.5 bike unless they are so amazing that it'll make me a better rider.