ive never ridden the SE but i can promise you, that the redline is a great frame for the money. i love mine, even though i have changed everything about the bike.
The new Stout is Chromoly from the specs on the S.E. site.gdlals said:I have an SE Stout. It rides great and is surprisingly more compliant than it looks. I bought it because 1) It could easily be converted to 1x9 2) Had reasonably good wheels/tires for the price 3) It was cheap, $275 new. With conversion to 1x9, disk front brake, etc., the total build was $450.
The SE Stout is an aluminum frame, the Redline is steel for what its worth.
Oh yeah, forgot, the 2009 is steel. I have a 2008 which is aluminum.chakujitsu said:The new Stout is Chromoly from the specs on the S.E. site.
Any chance you could post pics of your ride and a closeup of the rear end conversion to geared.?
That sounds about right. Mines 29.5 with the heavy tire upfront and no changes to pedal, seatpost or saddleJlee197853 said:I have to argue with you on the weight issue. My medium stout was 26.5 pounds stock. I changed the pedals, seatpost, and saddle, handlebars (FU2Bars), and stem, and got it down to just over 25 pounds. I wouldn't call that heavy. As parts wear out, and I upgrade the bike, I think I could get it down to 22 to 23 easy. I think weight is way overrated when riding rigid anyway. I would rather have something a little heavier to absorb the punishment, then some lightweight weenie bike.
Really like how you did that build! You could show up to any race at all, and not feel naked, on that bike.:thumbsup:gdlals said:Oh yeah, forgot, the 2009 is steel. I have a 2008 which is aluminum.
The rear-end conversion is super-easy, the bikes come with a geared cassette style freehub. The single speed cog is a simple stamped cog with spacers. All you have to do is remove the spacers and cog and you have a standard rear hub which will accept a 9-speed cassette. Here's what I did on my upgrades:
- Added 9-speed SRAM cassette. Had to slightly adjust dish and spoke tension on rear wheel. The horizontal drop-out tensioner has an integrated derailleur hanger
- Removed stock front hub, replaced Shimano hub/disk compatible.
- Added BB-7 / 185mm in front
- Added BBG bashguard
- Added SRAM X7 rear derailleur, SRAM shifter, upgraded cables since I had to buy for rear derailleur and front brake anyway
- Added Ergons
- Converted to tubeless, WTB Stout in front.
Thanks. It has been a very good bike for me. Last weekend I racked up 40Km, 1,153meter elevation change ride with it, no problems.Doggity said:Really like how you did that build! You could show up to any race at all, and not feel naked, on that bike.:thumbsup:
The reason why the new aluminum bike rides better is because of the 29" wheel vs. 26" wheel. Try to compare apples to apples. I initially rode an aluminum 29er. Switched to a steel one and it definitely rides better (for me). Much smoother.Jlee197853 said:I have the aluminum one. The ride is very compliant. I had a steel specialized way back, and this one rides way better than that. I think the debate of steel and aluminum is overrated in a 29er. The way the wheels roll over everything really soaks up the bumps. The web blog 29er reviewed the aluminum stout and were impressed with it.:thumbsup:
I say it's not "Mucking" your decision, rather "Making" your decision.....Good luck......CF.Greeny said:uh oh - bikesdirect just put out another one that's mucking up my decision making... windsor ss 29er with disk brakes...
(was planning on upgrading to disks on the monocog or stout)