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I'm debating upgrading the rear shock on my 2021 trance x 29, because it's winter and I got a nice bonus this year. Shock is trunnion mount 185x55.
The stock fox dps has rebound adjustment an a 3 position compression switch.

I'm looking at a new 2022 fox float X or DVO topaz T3.

The fox X has adjustable compression and rebound along with a 2 position compression climb switch.

The DVO only had adjustable rebound and a 3 position compression lever.

I'm leaning towards the fox for the rebound and compression adjustments.

Advice is appreciated.
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I think what’s most important is to make sure whatever shock you get, that’s it’s fine matches the leverage of your frame. The DPS is easily tunable by Avalanche - I recommend that!


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I'm debating upgrading the rear shock on my 2021 trance x 29, because it's winter and I got a nice bonus this year. Shock is trunnion mount 185x55.
The stock fox dps has rebound adjustment an a 3 position compression switch.

I'm looking at a new 2022 fox float X or DVO topaz T3.

The fox X has adjustable compression and rebound along with a 2 position compression climb switch.

The DVO only had adjustable rebound and a 3 position compression lever.

I'm leaning towards the fox for the rebound and compression adjustments.

Advice is appreciated.
You'll do fine with either, and both have decent tuning options available(or will). If you don't do your own service, you'll likely find more shops familiar with Fox, for whatever that's worth. The DVO should be easier to service yourself, as it uses a common bleed fitting. Not too bad to deal with either one though.
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I think what’s most important is to make sure whatever shock you get, that’s it’s fine matches the leverage of your frame. The DPS is easily tunable by Avalanche - I recommend that!


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I may do that once I've got a spare shock to ride while having the other tuned.
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I may do that once I've got a spare shock to ride while having the other tuned.
You can order pre-tuned shocks from DVO. There's clearly a wait, but it's an option.
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I love my Topaz T3.

DVO has my business not just because their stuff rides amazing, but their service is outstanding. I love being able to pick up a phone and having someone pick up on the other end that just wants to help you.
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what is wrong with your current shock to make you want an "upgrade". Look to that first. I personally wouldn't get the float X or the DVO T3. Look at the CC kitsuma or DB IL air.
what is wrong with your current shock to make you want an "upgrade". Look to that first. I personally wouldn't get the float X or the DVO T3. Look at the CC kitsuma or DB IL air.
The DPS that's on there now is not bad, but occasionally feels a bit harsh and kicks more than expected over bumps.
The Float X is pretty new so I haven't seen much on here about it. Both that you're considering are good shocks. Personally I'd look at price and actual availability for the final decision.

I just bought a new shock yesterday for my Tallboy. It can be frustrating because there's not much substantial in reviews. As long as you're buying a good shock (the DPS is not a good shock) you're probably going to be happy with it.
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what is wrong with your current shock to make you want an "upgrade". Look to that first. I personally wouldn't get the float X or the DVO T3. Look at the CC kitsuma or DB IL air.
I don't know a ton about cane creek shocks, but I believe they are available in the size. Why would you recommend them ?
A quick Google says that cane creek shocks are not user serviceable. They are going to have to be amazing to justify that for me. I like to be able to do at least basic maintenance on my stuff.
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I'm no expert, but i read the forums a lot and I like learning about this stuff.

Suggestions in no particular order:
  • Manitou Mara
  • DVO Topaz
  • Suntour Triair (same as DVO Topaz but uses an IFP instead of a bladder...also a little cheaper, maybe more available)
  • Rock Shox Super Deluxe Ultimate
  • Ohlins TTX2 (what i bought for my tallboy -- very similar design to the Cane Creek shocks, because CC uses the Ohlins design, but you can do the basic air can service yourself)
  • Float X (new, not many reviews, but initial reviews seem positive)
  • If you want coil there's a few extra options: EXT, Hazzard, etc.
The DPS that's on there now is not bad, but occasionally feels a bit harsh and kicks more than expected over bumps.
Giant at least sorta kinda has a rep for specing firm compression damping. You might be happy with a rebuild and mild tune on your DPS.
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I'm no expert, but i read the forums a lot and I like learning about this stuff.

Suggestions in no particular order:
  • Manitou Mara
  • DVO Topaz
  • Suntour Triair (same as DVO Topaz but uses an IFP instead of a bladder...also a little cheaper, maybe more available)
  • Rock Shox Super Deluxe Ultimate
  • Ohlins TTX2 (what i bought for my tallboy -- very similar design to the Cane Creek shocks, because CC uses the Ohlins design, but you can do the basic air can service yourself)
  • Float X (new, not many reviews, but initial reviews seem positive)
  • If you want coil there's a few extra options: EXT, Hazzard, etc.
I looked at mara pro, but it doesn't clear the frame.

Ohlins TTX2, may be a good combo of being able to do basic service and my love of boutique components.

Float x, I like having both compression and rebound adjustment (although I'd probably like to have high and low speed adjustment if I was being picky).

Cane creek DB nice to have high and low speed adjustment for both compression and rebound, but dislike not being user serviceable.

Fox X2 has is another option with both high and low speed adjustments.

DVO is user serviceable and good tuning support. Only drawback is it only really has rebound damping adjustment.
A quick Google says that cane creek shocks are not user serviceable. They are going to have to be amazing to justify that for me. I like to be able to do at least basic maintenance on my stuff.
I have no issue with sending stuff away for service. You can't service fox shocks at home either as you need to nitrogen charge them. if you want simple then go for the manitou mara but make sure you have enough clearance for the piggy back.
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I looked at mara pro, but it doesn't clear the frame.

Ohlins TTX2, may be a good combo of being able to do basic service and my love of boutique components.

Float x, I like having both compression and rebound adjustment (although I'd probably like to have high and low speed adjustment if I was being picky).

Cane creek DB nice to have high and low speed adjustment for both compression and rebound, but dislike not being user serviceable.

Fox X2 has is another option with both high and low speed adjustments.

DVO is user serviceable and good tuning support. Only drawback is it only really has rebound damping adjustment.
It seems like you are really hung up on the idea of adjustable low speed compression. It is a set and forget adjustment. If the shock is properly tuned, there is no need for a low speed adjuster when you have a low speed compression lockout/firm up switch (i.e. Topaz, DPS).

Your present DPS has the ability to be modified and tuned to be a very plush and good shock. The big limitation it has is that there is limited oil volume because it has no piggyback. That is rarely a real life issue for most people. Put me in the camp of pull your current shock and send it Avalanche and have Craig do his upgrade which will give you exactly what you are looking for, less harsh and less kickback over bumps. Unless you happen to hit on the correct aftermarket tune, it will work better than just throwing an aftermarket shock on and hoping to get it tuned to your frame and wants.

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It seems like you are really hung up on the idea of adjustable low speed compression. It is a set and forget adjustment. If the shock is properly tuned, there is no need for a low speed adjuster when you have a low speed compression lockout/firm up switch (i.e. Topaz, DPS).

Your present DPS has the ability to be modified and tuned to be a very plush and good shock. The big limitation it has is that there is limited oil volume because it has no piggyback. That is rarely a real life issue for most people. Put me in the camp of pull your current shock and send it Avalanche and have Craig do his upgrade which will give you exactly what you are looking for, less harsh and less kickback over bumps. Unless you happen to hit on the correct aftermarket tune, it will work better than just throwing an aftermarket shock on and hoping to get it tuned to your frame and wants.

I'm genuinely curious how well the Avalanche DPS does. Someone in another thread said they had theirs done and they still weren't happy with it. Not a comment on Avalanche at all -- strictly that they didn't like the DPS after being Avy'd. Do you have any experience with it?

I was headed that direction until I read that comment.

@OP there's some good discussion on the new X2 in a recent thead titled "Float X vs X2". Based on that thread and comments from my LBS and others, i'd avoid the X2. It seems like a pretty good shock to begin with but it seems like a nightmare to rebuild/maintain/tune.
Avalanche will soon be offering a tune for the Float X if you want a piggyback air shock tube to you and your frame


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It seems like you are really hung up on the idea of adjustable low speed compression. It is a set and forget adjustment. If the shock is properly tuned, there is no need for a low speed adjuster when you have a low speed compression lockout/firm up switch (i.e. Topaz, DPS).

Your present DPS has the ability to be modified and tuned to be a very plush and good shock. The big limitation it has is that there is limited oil volume because it has no piggyback. That is rarely a real life issue for most people. Put me in the camp of pull your current shock and send it Avalanche and have Craig do his upgrade which will give you exactly what you are looking for, less harsh and less kickback over bumps. Unless you happen to hit on the correct aftermarket tune, it will work better than just throwing an aftermarket shock on and hoping to get it tuned to your frame and wants.

I'm not hung up, just trying to figure out all the options.
I'm genuinely curious how well the Avalanche DPS does. Someone in another thread said they had theirs done and they still weren't happy with it. Not a comment on Avalanche at all -- strictly that they didn't like the DPS after being Avy'd. Do you have any experience with it?

I was headed that direction until I read that comment.

@OP there's some good discussion on the new X2 in a recent thead titled "Float X vs X2". Based on that thread and comments from my LBS and others, i'd avoid the X2. It seems like a pretty good shock to begin with but it seems like a nightmare to rebuild/maintain/tune.
I had basically ruled out the X2, but it seems very similar to the cane creek.
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