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What we have here is Ravemen's first 21700 (4000mAh) single cell light with its newest low glare optic treatment. Both these features ended up being a factor in the CR1000's main advantage over its competition, its exceptional runtimes. So lets look at the specifications, pro's and con's, and what it's been like using this light (almost every day) for the last couple of months.

https://cyclexp.com/products/ravemen-cr1000-headlight?variant=34222747320452

https://ravemen.com/product/CR1000.html


Ravemen CR1000 specifications and features


Maximum output: 1000 lumens (I measured 1106 @ startup)

Emitter type: Single Cree XM-L2

Battery: Single cell 4000mAh lithium-ion

Weight of lighthead/+ mount: 136g/151g

Mount: Slide clip QR strap attachment (22.2 - 35mm) + optional solid QR and helmet QR mount

Construction material: Aluminum lighthead/plastic mounts

Anti-glare lens

Wired remote mode switch

External battery runtime extension

USB chargeable (fast)

Mode memory

2 yr. warranty

$69.95


CR1000 Pro's & Cons


Pro's

Exceptional runtimes

Short charge times

Small (physically) and reasonably light

Anti-glare optic

Great beam pattern


CR1000 Cons


Flash modes in main program

Small rear mounted mode button can be hard to find and operate with a gloved hand

Strap mount not 100% stable when MTB riding


Output:


Initial output is not spectacular (better than claimed though) and trails my other 1000 lumen lights (Cygolite 950, Ceco 1000) but that doesn't paint a very accurate picture of perceived light power (read the beam pattern section for an explaination of how the CR1000 more efficiently uses its lumens). The other lights output degrades much faster than the CR1000 too + they have considerably shorter runtimes for each mode.

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Runtimes:


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I tested the top 3 modes and my results were within 5 min. of the Ravmen claims.


Beam Pattern:


The new style optic works GREAT! For its output it actually increases the perceived amount of light plus places the light in a manner that allows more efficient aiming reducing glare for oncoming traffic and not wasting much of its output on unimportant areas. One of the first things I noticed using the CR1000 was how comfortable I was and how effective the 350 lumen (375 measured) mode level was which is well under my usual 500 - 700 lumen comfort zone. I did a lot of side by side comparisons but in every case it took more measured lumens for the other lights to give comparable visibility.

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Thinking about it and looking at how the brightest part of the CR1000's beam was at the very top I realized it was using the majority of its available light between it max throw distance and the front of the bike where a typical light aiming for distance actually wastes close to 50% of its available light aimed up in the air since the center of the beam is its brightest point. Aiming most lights down for lower top spill puts the brightest part in the wrong place and the flood of light in the foreground usually limits distance vision.

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Anyway along with the beam being very efficient overall it also places a good deal of soft light around the front tire so turn in vidibility is also very good + overall the beam has very smooth coverage.

CR1000 high beam
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UI & Mounts


This is the area the CR1000 struggles in. I don't care much for strap mounts and even though this one is not too bad it still allows the beam to bounce around a little when riding off road. Luckily a solid mount is available. The next issue I have is the rear mounted mode button. Its a bit hard to find and/or operate for me with any sort of gloves (except fingerless) especially with the remote or usb cable attached. The remote helps a lot and I'd like this light quite a bit less without it. Which leaves the UI program that includes 4 forward beams levels + 2 flashing all on the main program. Lets just say I found it awkward having to press the remote button 5 times to get from med. high to the brightest mode. If the CR1000 had a double click to high function that is common to these type of lights it would be a huge benefit.


Conclusion:


In spite of the UI issues I consider this light a winner! If you can't live with these issues at least you know in advance. For me the positives far out weigh the negatives. It's light, bright, super beam pattern allows it to function well for mtn and road + as a helmet light too, has super long runtimes especially considering you can usually get by running it a mode lower than most lights, and fits my need perfectly so would still give it a solid 4 out of 5 stars! Thanks Ravemen for giving me the opportunity to review this light and share my thoughts about it.
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54 mile lights on ride last night with the CR1000, no problem! Battery liffe indicator didn't go red (10 - 35%) till the 50 mile mark so still had quite a few miles left before I needed to switch out lights. I was on my old Vassago but the route was side streets and unlit canal banks. Mostly used the level 3 mode (350 lumen) but some in level 2(600 lumen) and about 10 min. sitting in level 4 (100 lumen) on a mid ride break. It took about 2.5 hrs. to charge after last nights ride.

Ravemen also sent along one of their helmet mount and a Gopro adapter with the light and there are a couple of other mounting options they have as accessories. The US vendor I listed at the beginning of the first post showed a $9.95 price for the helmet mount but didn't show the adapter so not sure on its cost but I e-mailed them this morning to make sure it's possible to order any of the Ravemen accessories.
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Nice review MRM. Certainly does look to have more throw than the CR-900. That definitely would come in handy when on the down-hills. Now it would be interesting if Raveman decided to come out with a dual emitter version using the same optics.

You are right though about the bar mounts. While they work it would be nice to see a better designed mount. One that not only grips better but easier to use. Nice to hear that the run times are pretty much as advertised.
 

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You are right though about the bar mounts. While they work it would be nice to see a better designed mount. One that not only grips better but easier to use. Nice to hear that the run times are pretty much as advertised.
For someone who doesn't mind strap mounts I'm sure this one will work fine as it's as good as any I've tried, I just don't care for them and have eventually broke most. At least the solid accessory mount is pretty good now and helmet light mount is very good + available Gopro adapter gives you options. Claimed runtimes were very accurate as with all the Ravemen lights I have. I hated having to give this light a hit for the UI but 6 mode levels to scroll through is just too much IMO. That's really the only complaint I have that can't be fixed but if for some reason I lost this light I'd definitely spend my own money to get another one so I guess the UI doesn't bother me too much!
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... I hated having to give this light a hit for the UI but 6 mode levels to scroll through is just too much IMO. That's really the only complaint I have that can't be fixed but if for some reason I lost this light I'd definitely spend my own money to get another one so I guess the UI doesn't bother me too much!
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Actually you get used to it after a while because the CR-900 has the same 6 modes. Real easy to get the mode you want by rapid-firing the remote. You just have to get used to the count. Of course if you're not using the remote than yes it would be more of a problem.
 

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Actually you get used to it after a while because the CR-900 has the same 6 modes. Real easy to get the mode you want by rapid-firing the remote. You just have to get used to the count. Of course if you're not using the remote than yes it would be more of a problem.
Agreed, this is a test light I used long enough to get used to its quirks but I definitely liked the 4 mode (hi/med/low/flash) program on the LR800 better. Initially with the LR800 I was thinking "why did they put the flash in the main program" but after using it a little I realized you could still just do double clicks and alternate between hi and low. Large well elevated side mounted mode button helped on the LR too, with the CR I always used the remote.
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and what is the exactly usergroup for somethink like that?

glare reduced for what?

for street use i need 100% glare free or nothing.
for outdoor i need a wide spread in all angles so this light is overall for nothing coz it fails for both usergroups.

next question:
is it your phone/cam or is this crazy horrible tintshift real?
spill blue and spot yellow/green?

next essential part for any user, i put it on drive a little light goes out"battery empty" what i do now?
call police for help?:rolleyes:

.......

or better what type of real serious companys will glue a changeable batterie into a light.:thumbsup:
i never can drink enouth beer to come one the idea of somethink like that.....

the only time i remember it happend , i get visit from my sister and her kids start to play ...some hours later i have noticed they get on any way glue under the cover from the Samsung TV remote and the AAA batteries was glued......:madmax:



is it possible that you like lights with glued in interchangeable batteries?
you buy more of this stuff if i read it right?
 

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glare reduced for what?

for street use i need 100% glare free or nothing.
for outdoor i need a wide spread in all angles so this light is overall for nothing coz it fails for both usergroups.
The laws are different here and actually don't require any glare reduction at all. I ride MUP's all the time and don't notice pedestrians looking away or covering their eyes as I ride by but still have enough top spill ot avoid getting smacked by face level untrimmed branches so consider this a good compromise. I just review the lights but you are more than welcome to contact Ravemen and complain if you don't like the beam pattern.


next question:
is it your phone/cam or is this crazy horrible tintshift real?
spill blue and spot yellow/green?
I think a little of both. I don't notice it while I'm riding but you can definitely see it when stopped and even more so in the pictures.


next essential part for any user, i put it on drive a little light goes out"battery empty" what i do now?
call police for help?:rolleyes:
This light has the ability to charge while in use or if you let the battery get too low run off a remote battery via usb @ 800 lumens.
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Just got an e-mail from CycleXP and they now have the CR1000 in stock.:thumbsup:
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.....for street use i need 100% glare free or nothing.
for outdoor i need a wide spread in all angles so this light is overall for nothing coz it fails for both usergroups.
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or better what type of real serious companys will glue a changeable batterie into a light.:thumbsup:
i never can drink enouth beer to come one the idea of somethink like that.....
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is it possible that you like lights with glued in interchangeable batteries?
you buy more of this stuff if i read it right?
It's not a binary world. Just because you don't care for something, does not mean it is bad or crap, it just means that it is not to your preference. Other people will have different preferences or needs and for them some of these things may be fine.

Some of your posts provide good and helpful information. Posts like that above, not so much.
 

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Ordered one, plus helmet mount, and two hard mounts for the twin CR900's. Replacing a DIY unit with a separate battery pack not on the helmet. It has done good duty for 8 years. Wanted to move lights between bikes more readily. You have to search on helmet mount and Ravemen mount to find these parts on the site.

I liked that we know you can run over them on a gravel road and they are no worse for the wear! On nongiving pavement that may be different, but still decent impact resistance.
 

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Ordered one, plus helmet mount, and two hard mounts for the twin CR900's. Replacing a DIY unit with a separate battery pack not on the helmet. It has done good duty for 8 years. Wanted to move lights between bikes more readily. You have to search on helmet mount and Ravemen mount to find these parts on the site.

I liked that we know you can run over them on a gravel road and they are no worse for the wear! On nongiving pavement that may be different, but still decent impact resistance.
Did you order your CR1000 from CycleXP? I was happy to see this review show up when I Googled Ravemen CR1000 but also shocked that of the vendors listed that are selling these they were the only one I saw that wasn't charging more than retail. Please let us know how you lilke your light!
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Did you order your CR1000 from CycleXP?
Yes. On line. You have to search to find the mounts listings. You reported that they just came in. I thought about the fraying cable on the current 10 year old? light, and the time to overhaul it. Decided to look and the CR1000 was cheaper than the CR900. (Introductory price?)


Please let us know how you lilke your light!
Mole
It'll be a few days before it arrives. I won't need 2800 lumens (2 x 900 1 x 1000). Run time will be boosted considerably and I get rid of the umbilical cord to the 16.8 V pack. We have come a long way in the last 20 years on bike light performance especially batteries and LED efficientcy effects on runtime and all in one weights.
 

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Yes. On line. You have to search to find the mounts listings. You reported that they just came in. I thought about the fraying cable on the current 10 year old? light, and the time to overhaul it. Decided to look and the CR1000 was cheaper than the CR900. (Introductory price?)
I think the lower price (compared to the CR900) reflects the less complicated electronics (no OLED display or ramping adjustability). According to Ravemen the CR1000 has considerably more throw distance so should make a better beam for the helmet too.
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The light arrived yesterday and I got a chance to "test" it in my diveway tonight.

I used the double garage door as a beam screen. Here is the bike leaning against the door with the CR900's on high. I shone the lights on this door from 25 feet away at 90 degrees to this photo:

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The comparison of garage door beam shots with the twin CR900's showed a much sharper cutoff for the CR1000. I had to check the 900's angle as the difference made it look like they had no appreciable cutoff. They of course do, but there is a sizeable fairly bright zone above the brightest part of the beam that is almost nonexistent in the CR1000.

Next, I compared the lights shining down my drive and across the street up my neighbor's drive to my neighbor's garage door about 225 feet away as a test of throw. I adjusted the CR900's for night riding with a slight down angle to keep that not quite as sharp a cutoff light out of drivers' eyes. That covered most of the slight downhill of my drive to the street with the "high beam" old helmet light filling in from about 150 to 225 feet. The CR1000 at 350 lumens is about as bright as my old helmet light on high, but is a much wider beam. (Not surprising as I designed the old light to have the three LED dies stacked to light up a single lane width starting at about 150 feet.) The two highest levels of the CR1000 light up that twin garage door really well so I think 300 feet is likely. That will more than cover the fastest downhill I have. Lots of time. The helmet light will be easier to swing toward cross traffic in case they did not see me than the narrow beam old light. As a helmet light, dipping the beam to acommodate oncoming traffic is automatic for me.

Tonight was clear with a half moon bright right above my neighbor's garage as I tested and the third level down on all three lights provided good light to ride by (possibly aided by the moonlight), the second level more than ample light, and maybe needed on an overcast night with a new moon, and the highest might be good for wet pavement but seems pretty excessive. The extra runtime on lower lumens is a good trade.

I like it. Need to ride it tomorrow night. The old helmet light is now retired. It's design is covered in some old thread in DIY Lights. and I think that was about 8 years ago. A lot of LED advances since then.
 

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The light arrived yesterday and I got a chance to "test" it in my driveway tonight.........


I like it. Need to ride it tomorrow night. The old helmet light is now retired. It's design is covered in some old thread in DIY Lights. and I think that was about 8 years ago. A lot of LED advances since then.
Awesome! Since I was more impressed by the CR1000's actual in use performance 'am looking forward to hearing what you think after a couple of rides.
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Thanks MrMole for your quite comprehensive review and thanks to BrianMc for your posts!

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The comparison of garage door beam shots with the twin CR900's showed a much sharper cutoff for the CR1000. I had to check the 900's angle as the difference made it look like they had no appreciable cutoff.
I am quite surprised that raveman managed a somewhat decent cut-off with fresnel lens design. I'd love to see a garage door beamshot of the CR1000 vs the Outbound Focal Road or a beam shot in with some bushes along the side of the trail/road to get a better estimate of the cut-off quality!
 

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That is the niftiest self-contained light I've seen to date, Mr. M.
Good find, and thanks for the info/scoop.
 
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