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I have had at least 10+ situations lately with folks who do not look up and ahead when they ride... I am talking near collisions. Only avoided because I was looking ahead.... KEEP YOUR HEAD UP!!! Related to this is not yielding to the rider who is climbing... Lots of that lately... Must be the visitors from out of town....

This is not only important for safety, but it will actually improve your riding!! Basics folks!

Enough of my rant. I feel better now!!! :nono:
 

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I'm with you. It seems like I am the only one willing to move over on the trails on some rides, I'm sure that is not the case but still...it does get frustrating. The uphill downhill thing is very frustrating too.
 

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It's probably the same people who have to look at the keyboard instead of the monitor while typing.

Heh heh...
 

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I agree with your rant but the uphill downhill rule should be changed. I still follow it, but I don't have to like it or the idiot that made it up. To go down is why I ride up!
 

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Must be the visitors from out of town....
I'm not so sure it's people from out of town. Every time I come over there to mountain bike I'm amazed by the rudeness of so many riders. I would say 85% of riders on the trails in Bend refuse to give way to uphill riders. I haven't experienced this elsewhere, so what's up with that?? I have friends who've told me they've literally been run off the trail there. I was thinking that there must be a different set of rules than in other places...
 

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Yes, in Bend we have switched the rule. Uphill riders will now yield to the riders coming down. This has been changed because of the lack of downhill around here. Not to mention, its far easier to move over while going up, then it is to stop in the 3 inches of dust/silt bombing down a trail. ;)

Good rant though!

But really, who made the rule anyway?
 

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Smokie496 said:
Yes, in Bend we have switched the rule. Uphill riders will now yield to the riders coming down. This has been changed because of the lack of downhill around here. Not to mention, its far easier to move over while going up, then it is to stop in the 3 inches of dust/silt bombing down a trail. ;)

Good rant though!

But really, who made the rule anyway?
I thought the rule being practiced over there was the "Chicken" rule. Which makes sense, since that's the mascot of Phil's. It definitely adds an extra element of excitement to some otherwise tame trails. :D
 

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Coming from out of town this weekend. I yield to downhill riders when I climb, sorta how it's done where I'm from. I might have to work to get it in my head to pull over from dudes coming up, I don't think I haven't had an uphill rider pull over for me in a long time.

Anyone want to give me the 411 on which trails are better (safer) to climb up and which ones are mostly downhill traffic at Phil's?

I'll be up there saturday through tuesday on a brown cannondale, I'll be the one looking super far down the trail or standing around at a trail intersection looking lost.
 

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I look up doesn't make any difference when you come around blind corners or the shrubs are so thick you cant even see the trail anyway. Two way trails are dangerous mmmkay! ( try going 60+ on a Motorcycle and come around a blind corner face to face with a Quad..thats scurrry)


That uphill right away rule is stupid especially in Bend, they are going way slower uphill and its not like its so steep they cant get going again. I still pull over but I hate it.
 

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Kook91 said:
I thought the rule being practiced over there was the "Chicken" rule. Which makes sense, since that's the mascot of Phil's. It definitely adds an extra element of excitement to some otherwise tame trails. :D
OHHHH!!! So well put!!:thumbsup:
 

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Anyone want to give me the 411 on which trails are better (safer) to climb up and which ones are mostly downhill traffic at Phil's?
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Stay away from Phil's, all of the good stuff is open now for the most part, Phils will just be dusty and full of people. Get a map from a LBC and pedal everything up high (Sweed, southfork, farewell, twidely winks, funner, swampy), then at least you will get all the fun stuff with a lot less people, and when you are standing all confused, you are more likely to run across a local that knows where they are.

You can also try Cog Wild Bike Tours. Just a couple bucks will get you a 'Bend' shuttle on the good stuff. By 'Bend" shuttle, I mean you will still have to pedal to get back.
 

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I often take fire roads to the top of the trails because people like to try and run me down. I usually pull over the moment I see someone, but it is a bi-atch to get clipped back in at times with a SS.
 

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KTMDirtFace said:
I look up doesn't make any difference when you come around blind corners or the shrubs are so thick you cant even see the trail anyway.
It is sure getting shrubbishly shrub happy on the trails around here. I swear some ne'er-do-well could plant big pot plants alongside some of our totally shrubacious trails.

A good trail should be like a good beaver... neatly trimmed.

It'll come, though. Give it time
 

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Smokie496 said:
Stay away from Phil's, all of the good stuff is open now for the most part, Phils will just be dusty and full of people. Get a map from a LBC and pedal everything up high (Sweed, southfork, farewell, twidely winks, funner, swampy), then at least you will get all the fun stuff with a lot less people, and when you are standing all confused, you are more likely to run across a local that knows where they are.

You can also try Cog Wild Bike Tours. Just a couple bucks will get you a 'Bend' shuttle on the good stuff. By 'Bend" shuttle, I mean you will still have to pedal to get back.
Map: Check

Upper Elevation: Check(I actually thought that whole trail network there was called Phil's)

Tuesday Shuttle to Swampy Lakes: Check (if it's something Cog Wild still does on Tuesdays that is)
 

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If you want to avoid a shuttle, I highly recommend: Park at Skyliner's trailhead ---> Tumalo Creek trail ---> up South Fork (one of those "downhill" trails that's okay, and great, to climb) ---> Swampy Lakes trail heading west ---> Flagline Tie (will be snow free when you come) ---> Dutchman/Swampy trail ---> Swampy Lakes shelter, and pedal a mile up dirt road to ---> SST ---> Sector 16 ----> Upper Whoops ---> Skyliner's Trail ---> back to car.

A great ride.
 

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If you want to avoid a shuttle, I highly recommend: Park at Skyliner's trailhead ---> Tumalo Creek trail ---> up South Fork (one of those "downhill" trails that's okay, and great, to climb) ---> Swampy Lakes trail heading west ---> Flagline Tie (will be snow free when you come) ---> Dutchman/Swampy trail ---> Swampy Lakes shelter, and pedal a mile up dirt road to ---> SST ---> Sector 16 ----> Upper Whoops ---> Skyliner's Trail ---> back to car.

A great ride.
At the risk of highjacking this thread, what's the distance on that loop? And how would it be in the other direction (to get the downhill on South Fork)? Sounds like a great ride.
 

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My Adventuremap says 22.9

I'd rather climb South Fork than Upper Whoops, just because it's mostly shaded. Upper Whoops is (mostly) exposed to the hot sun.
 
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