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The "Cerrillos del Coyote" Race - 3 races in 4 weeks HURTS!

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I keep getting beat in my races - by Pro's, dammit! April has been a hell of a month. The 3rd installment of the NMORS (New Mexico Off-Road Series for the non-locals) took me south to lovely <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" /><st1:place><st1:City>Socorro</st1:City>, <st1:State>NM</st1:State></st1:place>. Traditionally a hot, dry venue for a metric century - but this time hosting a more typical XC event to "fit in" with the XC series perhaps, with the longer race taking place during the Fat Tire Fiesta in the fall. At least it wasn't snowing today!

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This race would be something of a departure in format from my usual personal race routine. I planned to wake up at 430AM, leave Santa Fe by 5AM, pick up a fellow racer in Albuquerque, then continue on another 1.5 hours south to Socorro. Upon arrival, we'd pick up our race number and packet, warm up and then RACE! No pre-ride, no real preparation in that I had a few good hard workouts in the past week (usually pretty laid-back prior to a race), and no "evening before the race hanging out", one of the more enjoyable parts of racing/camping/etc.

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Sounded like a good plan, right? It'd get me home by <st1:time Hour="16" Minute="0">4PM</st1:time>, making for a quick daytrip race/event. Cheap, quick, and left some weekend left to work on the house and all. Of course it didn't take into account the fact I may have thought my alarm clock was broken, going off at 430AM for some crazy reason, but somehow I scooted out of bed, and into the clothes I laid out the night before - hopped into the car (also pre-packed) and hit the road. 45 minutes later I still didn't feel awake, and it was only about 34 degrees when I left - chilly! Thankfully I'd be dropping thousands of feet in elevation by the time we got to Socorro, but it was still a tad nippy at the plaza, where they'd be staging the race out of.

Course map: (we did the big loop - counterclockwise)


The routine is pretty established here - get dressed, put tube & extra link in jersey pocket, bottle in bottle cage for warm-up, bigger bottle ready for the race, GU flask filled & diluted, bike dialed in and so on. Through the warm up I never really felt all that warm. Then in the few minutes before start time, I rode around town with a few of the guys (both pro's, and in my group because there are rarely enough pro's for their own class in the NMORS) loosening up some more. We cruise over to the start area, get the briefing (open roads some times, yellow line rule, traffic possible, etc...) and roll out in a neutral road start. We cross the main drag in town, over some RR tracks, and are led to the edge of town towards the first leg of the course, a long, straight-ish dirt road along an irrigation canal. As soon as we turn onto this portion, the police escort peels away, and it's ON!

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The two pros, Adam and Damian, and the sole Semi-Pro, Randy (team mate) and I, form the front of the pack, spreading things out into a decidedly road-style line. We trade pulls out along the way for a few miles, getting our legs revved up, and it seems weird to me that NONE of the rest of the "pack" are moving up to "help" pull along here. They sent all the age groups of Pro/Experts off together, so the field was pretty big, but it was us 4 doing all the work. I stayed well below the red line while pulling through, and tried to keep an eye to the rear while drafting. They were all there, but we were the designated leaders at this point, I guess. As soon as the course hit some harder terrain, or some sand, the four of us would crank the power up a notch. We started shedding people here, but still had a big group. A fifth fella pulled in ahead of me, and I told him feel free to draft and sit in, but he'd better take a pull at the front soon. Not sure he understood this decidedly roadie tactic/courtesy, but I didn't really care, as when the front guys powered ahead of him, I came around, snapped by him, and accelerated up the hill catching the wheel of one of the original 4 guys. Seems we had already put the hurt on the bulk of the pack, so I settled into a groove, letting 2 guys pull ahead, while I was between them and the fourth fella, for now. The course began climbing rougher jeep roads and then turned onto some burly, loose singletrack. Seems they had just cut it in, and it showed. It was hard to find a groove at first, but once I did it felt great! I passed Randy, as he'd had some wicked chain-suck issues and was fixing his bike. I know he'd come by as soon as the trail opened up a bit. A while later, just after crossing a loose arroyo crossing, there was a wicked steep hill that kicked up just ahead, and Adam came around and went for it. He rode part of the way up, but the loose tread tossed him off his bike, and he ran on up. Randy came around, trotting up the hill too, so we all crested close together - watching the blue jersey of Damian slip further and further ahead. Randy took off - looked like he was actually going to chase, Adam rode on, and I settled into a steady dirt road climbing rhythm. The 4 of us sort of spread out at this point (me batting clean-up, of course!), and were passing sport and beginner riders here and there - for some reason they'd been sent off 10 and 20 minutes ahead of us. The back 1/3rd of the course was mostly rolling climbs and descents - far rougher than I had anticipated and was feeling a little abused on the hard tail. I never had the sense that anyone was closing on me, but I did keep a good, sustainable pace from here out. As we slowly arced across the backside of the course, it seemed to start heading back downhill - and the city was in sight WAY off, to the north and east, across the river (<st1:City><st1:place>Rio Grande</st1:place></st1:City>) and irrigation ditches. Some of this backside was FAST and hairy. High speed rollers, very rough & rocky terrain, and some off-camber and sandy turns. Felt like mountain biking now!

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Finally hit the long flat dirt road back to the finish area, and no one was in sight behind me, and there were a few puffs of dust ahead that appeared to be riders. We wound are way down next to the river, heading north, in some grown-in areas on a sandy road, then popped up onto the road that would complete the race. Seemed like a LONG, tempo, lonely ride with my forearms down on the bars, heading into the wind and slightly uphill next to the ditch. Maybe 20 minutes or so, picking off the faster sport riders completing their race along the way, and it was done. Damian won, then Randy, then Adam, then me. Not bad company, getting beat by three strong pro/semi-pros. The winning time was about <st1:time Hour="13" Minute="41">1:41</st1:time>, and I was only a few minutes back from that. In retrospect, had I pre-ridden the course, I'd have had a better idea of how much to hold, and how much to push - as on the back 1/3rd of the course I stayed pretty conservative - not wanting to go hard, then blow as I've done before.

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We spun out the legs a bit, rolled back to the town square and got changed. They started posting results in no time, and indeed, I snagged 4th in our combined group. Points/Series wise it'd be a first, I think, for the 30-39 expert group. Possibly a 2nd if they put Randy in our expert group. Tough to tell in these smaller events sometimes. Whatever the formal points outcome - it felt like a good day overall! To have stayed anywhere in the neighborhood of such strong, fast guys felt like an accomplishment in and of itself!

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Nice race Glen

Looks like you're training is dead-on this year. Takes a pro to beat Glen! and Damian is a freak of a pro

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Yes!

Another win....and your write-ups are only taking a day or so...boy are you getting dialed in now! I suppose you've lost a couple of pounds, too? Improvement on all fronts!

Way to go!

I have a couple of questions:

a) how many wins in expert class before you upgrade? Sport class only took one win, right? Remember? :)

b) OK Mr. Blur 2.0, you seem to be racing mostly on the hard tail...comments?

As for the Nathrop race next weekend, well, it is snowing again here in Boulder as I type. There has been no trail riding around the Front Range for the better part of a week now, since everything is blanketed in snow, and in fact I haven't even seen roadies out for a few days. They even cancelled a local road race today. Those that have trainers are using them! You're going to be racing against a bunch of frustrated Coloradans next weekend!

(Apparently the race course is just far enough south to still be in OK shape).

Cheers
Tom

PS attached photo stolen from Debaser's recent post (http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=96972) on the Front Range Forum to give you a feeling of the sentiment going on around here!
 

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Thanks for the report Glen. Everytime I read one of your race reports I think of the picture you posted when you were somewhat larger. A true inspiration! Hope the season has many more success stories.

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Great work!

And great write up. It sure felt good to get out and ride hard on a nice weather day for a couple of hours (less than that in your case).

The Socorro event is sooooo nicely done.

What were your thoughts on the beginners then sports then experts start order? The advantage I saw was that it basically got all the racers finished in a reasonable time window. This resulted in the results and presentations taking place as scheduled at noon o'clock. Did you or the other pro/semi/experts experience any downside?

Um.......

How/when did you get so fast? The course took me about 2:15 if I remember right.

But I did pass the line 0:09 ahead of my 'cruces ride bud smokin' Ray. He dropped me on the singletrack/bumpy downhill roads. I had to reel him in back on the levee road. He said some creative words of polite encouragement as I passed by on the way to the line.

Good luck and continued success. You'll be making the big bike bucks in no time. :cool:

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Nice race Glen

Looks like you're training is dead-on this year. Takes a pro to beat Glen! and Damian is a freak of a pro

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Scott! It'd have favored you and your SS out there - we missed ya.

Damian is on the gas this year on top of his inherent freaky abilities - so few but Adam can catch him. Randy rode really hard, and may have challenged Damian, except for his mechanical issue. When he came back by after repairing his bike, Adam and I watched him attack the hills and put a huge amount of distance in pretty quickly. What was really fun was there was a 50+ expert SPRINT FINISH! Too cool.

Fruita? What's the final call?
 

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Another win....and your write-ups are only taking a day or so...boy are you getting dialed in now! I suppose you've lost a couple of pounds, too? Improvement on all fronts!

Way to go!
Thanks Tom! Dialed, well, er, not sure about that - I need to get more pix at these events, but I've been slacking on my MTBR duties...:eek:

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I have a couple of questions:

a) how many wins in expert class before you upgrade? Sport class only took one win, right? Remember? :)
ROTFLMAO!!!!!! *ahem* it was two wins that prompted the upgrade last year, pal. Coyote Classic, then Moab TOC. In fact, Chalk Creek was my innaugural expert bashing!

And Expert is as far as I go buddy, if I was younger, I might, just might consider other options..... I bet the snow-bound front rangers still come out and stomp booty this weekend, especially since they're likely to NOT be overtrained and will be anxious to get going.

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b) OK Mr. Blur 2.0, you seem to be racing mostly on the hard tail...comments?
Ow! I wish I'd ridden the Blur at Socorro. The relentless rocky/chattery stuff took a toll. I'd have stayed a little closer to Adam had I not been getting so beat-up, but once back on the fltter stuff it was cool. The Blur will be the ride at Nathrop, as I remeber some good, fast, rocky stuff there.

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As for the Nathrop race next weekend, well, it is snowing again here in Boulder as I type. There has been no trail riding around the Front Range for the better part of a week now, since everything is blanketed in snow, and in fact I haven't even seen roadies out for a few days. They even cancelled a local road race today. Those that have trainers are using them! You're going to be racing against a bunch of frustrated Coloradans next weekend!

(Apparently the race course is just far enough south to still be in OK shape).

Cheers
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See above comment - I'll be doing some hard, LT workouts this week, so may not be 100% for Nathrop - but look forward to it anyhow. We got so much snow, so consistently all winter, I can't feel bad for ya'll! Get out and ski some more then....

I will be looking to be in on the hole-shot this time, even if I blow later on. I WILL NOT walk up that hill, dammit!
 

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Thanks for the report Glen. Everytime I read one of your race reports I think of the picture you posted when you were somewhat larger. A true inspiration! Hope the season has many more success stories.

Glenn (yeah 2 n's)
Thanks Glenn! "Somewhat"? LOL, I was somewhat larger like the Titanic hit "Something" of an iceberg! ;-)

The races should start going up into the mountains in the coming weeks, with more climbing. That's where I'm looking to stay strong this year. We'll see!
 

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Sounds like a fun race/event - in Socorro of all places. But it was GREAT to actually have a good weekend weatherwise, no?

How did Mike do?

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Matt! It was fun, and really well run. Weather was perfect indeed - just in time for some more rain....

Mike flatted and still stayed strong, mid-packish if I remember correctly.
 

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LCdaveH said:
And great write up. It sure felt good to get out and ride hard on a nice weather day for a couple of hours (less than that in your case).

The Socorro event is sooooo nicely done.

What were your thoughts on the beginners then sports then experts start order? The advantage I saw was that it basically got all the racers finished in a reasonable time window. This resulted in the results and presentations taking place as scheduled at noon o'clock. Did you or the other pro/semi/experts experience any downside?
All things considered, it seemed to work well. The new tight singletrack made for a few tight passes, but folks were really cool letting us through. Other than that - worked out fine! I agree that it was cool to have everyone finish up about the same time. Could they have started the Beginners, then Sports, maybe 5 minutes ahead? Then we'd all be passing on the road most likely.... Ahhh, nevermind! It went perfect. I suppose if there were huge classes, traffic may have been more of a problem.

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Um.......

How/when did you get so fast? The course took me about 2:15 if I remember right.
Faster, maybe. Last year was a cathartic one fitness & cycling wise. Road cycling has played a huge role in gaining strebgth, fitness and endurance. 2:15 is a dang good time Dave!

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But I did pass the line 0:09 ahead of my 'cruces ride bud smokin' Ray. He dropped me on the singletrack/bumpy downhill roads. I had to reel him in back on the levee road. He said some creative words of polite encouragement as I passed by on the way to the line.

Good luck and continued success. You'll be making the big bike bucks in no time. :cool:

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LOL, "creative words of polite encouragement", I know about those 'friendly exchanges'! Good work reeling him back in! The long return on the road was sort of a TT type experience for me - head down, pushing pretty hard the whole way.

Nice work and great seeing you & the usual suspects out there!

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Good Job Glen. Looks like us Snowbound Frontrangers are in for a world of hurt when you show up this weekend. I manged 27 miles on the Roadie on Saturday before the snow came and the Race on Sunday was cancelled. I have a Crit tomorrow evening, but I seriously doubt I will get any MTB time until Friday in Nathrop. Uggh. Hopefully the rest of you guys won't figure out how little time we've had in the MTB saddle, and we'll have a slim chance.

C ya this weekend.
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Good Job Glen. Looks like us Snowbound Frontrangers are in for a world of hurt when you show up this weekend. I manged 27 miles on the Roadie on Saturday before the snow came and the Race on Sunday was cancelled. I have a Crit tomorrow evening, but I seriously doubt I will get any MTB time until Friday in Nathrop. Uggh. Hopefully the rest of you guys won't figure out how little time we've had in the MTB saddle, and we'll have a slim chance.

C ya this weekend.
Ocky
Thanks Ocky! I sure hope the weather behaves in Nathrop for the weekend - as it looks a little dicey. I have already had my "muddy saddle time" and am not thrilled about the "Chalk" at Chalk Creek getting wet....

I'm worried that the CO boys will be looking to stomp butt given the high degree of snow induced cabin fever! I have some tough workouts this week and will be only so strong this weekend. Nathrop was to be a "fun" B/C race.... but I always like to go all-out!

You camping friday? When I get a confirmation (yes or no) about the folks I'm set-up to carpool with, I'll make final plans (and register I suppose :rolleyes: ) and let ya'll know.
 

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The 3rd installment of the NMORS (New Mexico Off-Road Series for the non-locals) took me south to lovely Socorro, NM. Traditionally a hot, dry venue for a metric century - but this time hosting a more typical XC event to "fit in" with the XC series perhaps, with the longer race taking place during the Fat Tire Fiesta in the fall.
I've been heavily involved with the Fat Tire Fiesta since 2002, so I can fill in some of the background on this. The change in format was intended to make it more of a true XC MTB race. The Quebradas Tour-ture is a fun course, but is pretty much a dusty road race. Two years ago we decided that we wanted something more XC, and started looking for new venues. The first alternate brought to fruition was the Chupadera X-ing, used at the 2004 Fat Tire Fiesta. That course was a kinda tough on the beginners, though, so we kept looking. The result is this year's Cerrillos del Coyote (which shares little beyond the name with the race from six years ago). We're pretty pleased with the result, and I'm quite pleased that the racers seemed to like it too.

Unfortunately, this race was in place of a race during the Fiesta. It was killing us trying to put on the race concurrent with the Fiesta, both about a month after putting on the Socorro Chile Harvest Triathlon. We simply didn't have the resources to run them both properly at the same time, so we split them up. We chose April for the race because the weather is just about perfect--and back when we scheduled it, April was a pretty empty month! :rolleyes:

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but it was still a tad nippy at the plaza, where they'd be staging the race out of. [...] Through the warm up I never really felt all that warm.
I know what you mean. I'm so used to working these events in shorts and a T-shirt that I had to go dig up a coat from the back of my truck. :)

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The two pros, Adam and Damian, and the sole Semi-Pro, Randy (team mate) and I, form the front of the pack, spreading things out into a decidedly road-style line. We trade pulls out along the way for a few miles, getting our legs revved up, and it seems weird to me that NONE of the rest of the "pack" are moving up to "help" pull along here.
Interesting! I wonder if those racers just never "clicked" to what you four were doing. The portion along the ditches was actually designed with the roadie nature of the Tour-ture in mind. We figured that the pack would start spreading out once it bogged into the sand and hills climbing toward the singletrack.

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The course began climbing rougher jeep roads and then turned onto some burly, loose singletrack. Seems they had just cut it in, and it showed. It was hard to find a groove at first, but once I did it felt great!
So new that we are still waiting for the work-party blisters to heal! :) We scouted out that trail in February, and have been tooling and bedding it in pretty much every Sunday since. If you're in the neighborhood, drop into Spoke 'n Word Cycles to thank Karl for the great job he and his posse have done.

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A while later, just after crossing a loose arroyo crossing, there was a wicked steep hill that kicked up just ahead, and Adam came around and went for it. He rode part of the way up, but the loose tread tossed him off his bike, and he ran on up.
I've only seen one person ride up that evil, evil hill, and he bunny-hopped up it sideways! :D

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Some of this backside was FAST and hairy. High speed rollers, very rough & rocky terrain, and some off-camber and sandy turns. Felt like mountain biking now!
That would be the "Rollercoaster", one of my favorite trails in the area. And we routed you guys down the shallow side. :) Either way it's one huge pile of fun, despite the quad/ATV damage.

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I snagged 4th in our combined group. Points/Series wise it'd be a first, I think, for the 30-39 expert group. Possibly a 2nd if they put Randy in our expert group. Tough to tell in these smaller events sometimes. Whatever the formal points outcome - it felt like a good day overall!
Based on the previous two NMORS events, it looks like NORBA Semi-Pro and Pro are combined for the NMORS Pro results. Based on that, I would expect you to get first in Expert 30-39. Congratulations!

Thanks for another great write-up, and good luck at the Chalk Creek Stampede.
 

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I've been heavily involved with the Fat Tire Fiesta since 2002, so I can fill in some of the background on this. The change in format was intended to make it more of a true XC MTB race. The Quebradas Tour-ture is a fun course, but is pretty much a dusty road race. Two years ago we decided that we wanted something more XC, and started looking for new venues. The first alternate brought to fruition was the Chupadera X-ing, used at the 2004 Fat Tire Fiesta. That course was a kinda tough on the beginners, though, so we kept looking. The result is this year's Cerrillos del Coyote (which shares little beyond the name with the race from six years ago). We're pretty pleased with the result, and I'm quite pleased that the racers seemed to like it too.

Unfortunately, this race was in place of a race during the Fiesta. It was killing us trying to put on the race concurrent with the Fiesta, both about a month after putting on the Socorro Chile Harvest Triathlon. We simply didn't have the resources to run them both properly at the same time, so we split them up. We chose April for the race because the weather is just about perfect--and back when we scheduled it, April was a pretty empty month! :rolleyes:

I know what you mean. I'm so used to working these events in shorts and a T-shirt that I had to go dig up a coat from the back of my truck. :)

Interesting! I wonder if those racers just never "clicked" to what you four were doing. The portion along the ditches was actually designed with the roadie nature of the Tour-ture in mind. We figured that the pack would start spreading out once it bogged into the sand and hills climbing toward the singletrack.

So new that we are still waiting for the work-party blisters to heal! :) We scouted out that trail in February, and have been tooling and bedding it in pretty much every Sunday since. If you're in the neighborhood, drop into Spoke 'n Word Cycles to thank Karl for the great job he and his posse have done.

I've only seen one person ride up that evil, evil hill, and he bunny-hopped up it sideways! :D

That would be the "Rollercoaster", one of my favorite trails in the area. And we routed you guys down the shallow side. :) Either way it's one huge pile of fun, despite the quad/ATV damage.

Based on the previous two NMORS events, it looks like NORBA Semi-Pro and Pro are combined for the NMORS Pro results. Based on that, I would expect you to get first in Expert 30-39. Congratulations!

Thanks for another great write-up, and good luck at the Chalk Creek Stampede.
Wow! My pleasure - and great job on your end helping pull it together! Really fun course, organization ran like clockwork, and the way it was satged, with the sport & beginners on course earlier, worked great the more I think about it. I see how the mayhem of doing the fiesta, race, Chile Harvest Tri and so on may have been a bit taxing ;-)

Once bedded in the singletrack will be fantastic! And the roller coaster section took me by surprise and made for an exzcellent tear-ass wake up/descent. I look forward to riding the area some more in the coming months.

Anyhow, great work, again, and many thanks from a racer-end of things! Were you racing out there too?
 

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LCdaveH said:
The Socorro event is sooooo nicely done.
Aw, shucks! You'll make us blush! :D

Seriously, though, thank you. We work hard at these events, and it's gratifying to know people enjoy the result.

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What were your thoughts on the beginners then sports then experts start order? The advantage I saw was that it basically got all the racers finished in a reasonable time window. This resulted in the results and presentations taking place as scheduled at noon o'clock. Did you or the other pro/semi/experts experience any downside?
That was a Grand Experiment (tm) designed to test passing skills. Like most Grand Experiments, some racers were thrilled, and some less so. The big win was that it tightened up the finish times considerably. The big drawback was that not enough of the Pro/Expert group had passed the Beginners before the singletrack, which caused some Beginners to walk more than they rode (whoops).

Anyone else care to comment on this issue? The promoter's wife made her position pretty clear :), but I'd love to hear some more opinions. Should we keep the inverted start, or go back to a more traditional start order?
 

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Wow! My pleasure - and great job on your end helping pull it together! Really fun course, organization ran like clockwork [...] Anyhow, great work, again, and many thanks from a racer-end of things!
Thanks for the kind words. I'd like to forward them to our volunteers, if you don't mind?

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Were you racing out there too?
Nope. I was the guy giving the lecture--er, briefing, I meant briefing!--and running the finish timing.

And you don't want to see me race. Seriously. It's a sad, sad sight. :)
 

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Thanks for the kind words. I'd like to forward them to our volunteers, if you don't mind?
Nope, don't mind at all, and all the volunteer's deserve another big "thanks!"

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Nope. I was the guy giving the lecture--er, briefing, I meant briefing!--and running the finish timing.

And you don't want to see me race. Seriously. It's a sad, sad sight. :)
Ahhhh! Actually, I think it was good to give the heads up as you did, as I believe a lot of folks seriously do not understand basic race/trail/pass etiquette, and you made it simple & clear. I was dancing around at the back of the crowd, then ran for the porto-potties near the end of the "lecture"! Probably easy to spot as our team gear is BRIGHT ORANGE. Not very stealthy...

Amyhow, thanks again & again! I'll spread the good word come time next season for the race...

Oh, while we have you here - any idea when the results will be submitted to NMORS and to NORBA? Seemed like you guys had the times/results near-real-time! And printed off a computer, no less! Fancy indeed.
 

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Ahhhh! Actually, I think it was good to give the heads up as you did, as I believe a lot of folks seriously do not understand basic race/trail/pass etiquette, and you made it simple & clear. I was dancing around at the back of the crowd, then ran for the porto-potties near the end of the "lecture"! Probably easy to spot as our team gear is BRIGHT ORANGE. Not very stealthy...
Stealthy gets you ignored, run over, or shot. Bright is good. :)

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Oh, while we have you here - any idea when the results will be submitted to NMORS and to NORBA? Seemed like you guys had the times/results near-real-time! And printed off a computer, no less! Fancy indeed.
The timing program we use computes the results in real time--once we have everything entered correctly, anyway. Just a matter of printing them out every so often in the gaps between arriving racers. Microsoft Access may be a crap database, but it has its uses.

We should have the results posted on our website tomorrow, and we hope to have the results submitted to NMORS shortly thereafter. No idea on posting to NORBA; I'll ask the guy running NMORS when I send him the information.
 

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alizhan said:
We should have the results posted on our website tomorrow, and we hope to have the results submitted to NMORS shortly thereafter. No idea on posting to NORBA; I'll ask the guy running NMORS when I send him the information.
Great! One of the reasons I focused on the NMORS series was that they made it all NORBA, and I'd assumed the results would get reported... I've talked with Cliff about helping out in that regard, as while racing is the main goal, holding an annual license is silly unless the races get submitted to BigBrother.

Anyhow, sounds good!
 
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