It's not personal.... dooood.
He's just not making any sense. I just felt the need to lay some accuracy at his feet when he says the frame weights are close and the BB on the moto flexes alot. I'm sure he's never ridden one. I'm not a motobecane fanboy but alot of people talk trash on them just because they don't like the business model or whatever.
Thank you for the accuracy that you have laid at my feet. My feet appreciate it. :thumbsup:
Let's call the Moto 3.5 pounds, and the Epic 6 pounds, just for comparison's sake: 2.5 pounds difference, and certainly significant (I'll pick up that point from down by my feet and affirm it).
Now let's look at total bike weights. Again, just for comparison's sake, let's call the Moto 24 pounds and the Epic 27.5. Now the difference is 3.5 pounds, of which frame weight is 2.5 pounds. But now this difference is less than a 15% change -- not bad at all -- and most of that is static frame weight -- not rotating weight -- which has much less affect on the rider.
15% seems like a reasonable penalty to me
to pay for the added benefits of a highly efficient full suspension bike, not to mention security of having a local shop work with you on the product (setup, tuneup, warranty, etc.). But again, this is only for me
: I generally feel that we can put a little too much emphasis on bike weight at the expense of reliability and stability. But then again, I ride a 26 pound rigid singlespeed, so whatthehail do I know?
I wasn't in any way "talking trash" about your -- or anyone else's -- Moto. Srsly. I'm sure it's a great bike -- certainly much nicer than anything I've ever owned. I said as much in my post. So is the Specialized. Assuming things such as fit are the same, I don't think that the OP can go wrong in his decision, but he asked for advice, so I offered my opinion, trying especially hard not to step on anyone's toes. I'm sorry that I failed at that, and sorry that you took offense -- fanboy or not. I hope that clears things up. :thumbsup: