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Hey everyone.

When i was looking into getting a pug i looked high and low for some footage of someone riding one on soft dry sand, like a sand dune or sand wash. I finally found a video on youtube of two guys riding in warner valley Ut, and a blog from a guy in borrego springs Ca. It was not exactly what i was looking for but it gave me enough info to help me decide to get a pug. Hopefully these pictures will help others decide to get one.

On the way home from my parents house this weekend we stopped of at the glamis sand dunes in California. It was way hot, the dogs got out of the truck, yelped and jumped back in the sand was so hot. Anyway, i unloaded the "helmsley" and took it for a spin on some small sand dunes. to my amazement it worked very well. I could float on most of the dunes without too many issues. If you got close to a razorback where the sand was real soft you sink in, but you could get around. I think if there were ATV tracks it would have ben very difficult, but virgin sand was good.

I know someone will wonder... i think 10 lbs of air, could use less on the sand. sorry the pictures suck, didn't have the good camera. but you can get the idea.:p

On sand washes it works good till you hit very loose sand, or the grade gets around 2%+.

Hope this helps someone
 

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hi jimfab,ive got films and on here riding soft sand,(fatbikefilm thread) https://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=533272
and theres lots of pics on the sand/beech thread,https://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=508376
also you could nearly half your tyre pressure with no problems if your only in soft sand and not rocks too,6-8psi makes a lot of diffrence to the tyre spread, the steering gets a bit weird though at speed on tarmac (pavement stateside!) so be ready for that if riding home :eek:

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Thanks!

Not long after i got the pug i found both of your guys pictures and video. Very inspirational stuff. I would love to get over to the UK someday and do some riding with coastkid, he knows what's up. Or ride Baja sometime after the cartel is done doing there thing:madman: . We should figure out some kind of foreign exchange bicycle program:D Nice work guys! I loved the bit about the slime, i eventually got that to work!

Laters-jim
 

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Hey Jim - I've spent a lot of time in Baja going down every winter or at least every other winter for years. I've never had a lick of trouble there and I can't correlate any of the news stories to what I've actually experienced. I don't stick around TJ for more than an hour to grab my tourist card and a few tacos. I head down past Ensenada in one shot and I think you'll find it's a different world once you leave the border. I've left my truck unattended all day on the beach while I kayaked and biked and had no one mess with it. I've bike toured down the Baja and everyone has been super friendly.

I'll be headed back this winter to kiteboard and ride my Pugsley.

If you are keen on a visit don't let the media put you off.
 

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the tracks that those tires leave look like the tracks that sand worms leave on the planet of arakis
 
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down south

vikb said:
Hey Jim - I've spent a lot of time in Baja going down every winter or at least every other winter for years. I've never had a lick of trouble there and I can't correlate any of the news stories to what I've actually experienced. I don't stick around TJ for more than an hour to grab my tourist card and a few tacos. I head down past Ensenada in one shot and I think you'll find it's a different world once you leave the border. I've left my truck unattended all day on the beach while I kayaked and biked and had no one mess with it. I've bike toured down the Baja and everyone has been super friendly.

I'll be headed back this winter to kiteboard and ride my Pugsley.

If you are keen on a visit don't let the media put you off.
Hey,

I have ben told that by a bunch of folks that head south on a regular basis. It looks totally amazing there. I am going to make it a point to visit soon.

Thanks again-jim
 

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dune bikin'

hey jim, took my fatbike to the Oregon dunes last month (I left a post about it on the Google Groups Pugsley owners site). Three days of sunshine in a row (not the norm). By the third day I was beggining to learn how to read the sand (suface). I ran just under 5lbs. in the rear tire and just under 4lbs in front and just a little more for the beach "commute" down from the state park. I concur - riding in the motorized area was tough goin'. July is a "high use" month and the paddle tires of the buggys & Quads had it pretty well chewed up. I spent most of my time in the non-motorized areas which apperently, at this time anyway, is legal. The forest service personel that I talked to assured me that they had no problem with bicycles at this time (probably because , with the exception of people riding down the beach, it was the first inquiry about bicycling in the open dunes that they could remember) but if there were hundreds of us they might have to "take a look at it". So, we should probably keep our group numbers down and keep a low profile to keep from gettin' regulated out of there. Anyhow, I recorded most of the riding (approx. 20 gigs worth) on a p.o.v. cam mounted off the rear rack (lots of tri-pod sets too) so I've got a ton of footage... but it's mostly 2 or 3 gig clips that need to be edited down for posting. I'm buying an external hard drive this weekend ( I hope) and will get started a.s.a.p. I'm a good 8hr drive from there and planning to go back one more time before ski season (mabey a winter trip too) and deffinatly looking for partners!

take care, keep the round side down
-Ward
 
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sounds cool

Man, that sounds great, i have ben told of the great dunes in Oregon. I would love to visit someday. I am going to try to get the pug up to the coral pink sand dunes in southern Utah soon to try them out. I have asked about Bicycle use in closed to off road areas in the Glamis sand dunes and got a few blank stares followed by a...... i don't think so...... but that's California for you. I am glad the folks in Oregon are still sane. The world may never catch on to us, but i am O.K. with that. I cant wait to checkout your video, if i were to ever quit buying bicycles i may be able to afford a video camera:D . Please link your videos or pictures when you get them up, I am sure that everyone would love to check them out.

Thanks again
viva pugsley!
 
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inspiration

Wow, I just checked out the google pugs group, it is pretty cool what people are doing with there bikes, it is cool to see that there is so many folks that are out enjoying there lives trying new exciting adventures. I bet that everyone that has a pug can say that they have ben somewhere or have done something on a bike that nobody else in the world has done. It is kinda exciting to think that we are all pioneers of a new era of cycling. Before you know it i bet there will be fat tire specific races based on our adventures today. We have to give a special thanks to the folks at surly for investing in the fat tire idea:thumbsup: i know others have done it in the past, but as far as i know surly made it accessible to the masses, Thanks! If i am missing others in my history, i am sorry and i hope someone will give credit where it is due.:D
viva pugsley!
 
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