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Since it seems there is a lot of confusion about geometry adjustments I wrote up this overview.
Let me give a summary of geometry adjustments here for future reference.
Offset bushing (reducers):
Do not affect amount of suspension travel. They will, on most bikes, affect the suspensions behavior, since you are on a different part of the leverage curve.
They need sufficient clearance in behind the seat tube. If it's tight, going to a smaller rear tire will help (in standard orientation). If used in "extending" orientation you need clearance in front of the seat tube (with shock yoke or swing arm linkage).
If used in the standard orientation(to shorten eye to eye distance of frame) they will:
Adjusting headsets:
Need a non-integrated headset. If the head tube is on the smaller side, you will need to go to external cups. Usually this is at the bottom due to the larger dimension of the tapered steerer there.
If you go from internal to external cups on the bottom, this will:
All this is in addition to any changes you are doing with the actual angle adjust!
The first option for adjustment headset is straight offset. This will increase or reduce the reach, front center and wheelbase, in addition to any possible changes caused by switching to an external headseat cup.
The other option is angled adjust headsets. Commonly these are used to make the head angle slacker, so that's what I will describe. If you install them the other way around, all effects are reversed.
In addition to any effects from switching to external cups an angled headset will:
Did I miss anything important?
Let's not get into whether or not any of these changes are better or worse. That depends on geometry as a whole, rider size and riding style to such an extent that it will only lead to confusion and unnecessary arguing. let's leave it at the facts(geometry) and then everyone can decide for themselves whether or not the like those changes.
I hope this helps anyone considering adjusting their bike!
Let me give a summary of geometry adjustments here for future reference.
Offset bushing (reducers):
Do not affect amount of suspension travel. They will, on most bikes, affect the suspensions behavior, since you are on a different part of the leverage curve.
They need sufficient clearance in behind the seat tube. If it's tight, going to a smaller rear tire will help (in standard orientation). If used in "extending" orientation you need clearance in front of the seat tube (with shock yoke or swing arm linkage).
If used in the standard orientation(to shorten eye to eye distance of frame) they will:
- Drop the bottom bracket
- Slacken Headangle
- Slacken seattube angles (you might be able to compensate for this by sliding saddle forward on the rails/ reversing the seatposts saddle clamps)
- Increase stack
- Decrease reach
- Lengthen wheelbase
- Increase front center/ rear center ratio
Adjusting headsets:
Need a non-integrated headset. If the head tube is on the smaller side, you will need to go to external cups. Usually this is at the bottom due to the larger dimension of the tapered steerer there.
If you go from internal to external cups on the bottom, this will:
- slacken head angle
- Slacker seattube angle (you might be able to compensate for this by sliding saddle forward on the rails/ reversing the seatposts saddle clamps)
- Raise the bottom bracket
- Shorten the reach
- Increase the stack
- Lengthen the wheelbase
All this is in addition to any changes you are doing with the actual angle adjust!
The first option for adjustment headset is straight offset. This will increase or reduce the reach, front center and wheelbase, in addition to any possible changes caused by switching to an external headseat cup.
The other option is angled adjust headsets. Commonly these are used to make the head angle slacker, so that's what I will describe. If you install them the other way around, all effects are reversed.
In addition to any effects from switching to external cups an angled headset will:
- Slacken the head angle
- Slightly drop the bottom bracket
- Slightly increase the reach
- Slightly decrease the stack
- Increase front center / rear center ratio
Did I miss anything important?
Let's not get into whether or not any of these changes are better or worse. That depends on geometry as a whole, rider size and riding style to such an extent that it will only lead to confusion and unnecessary arguing. let's leave it at the facts(geometry) and then everyone can decide for themselves whether or not the like those changes.
I hope this helps anyone considering adjusting their bike!