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NEPMTBA and myself hit up Prompton State Park on the hottest day of the year!
Trail conditions wet and very slippery, tons of moss covered rocks and thousands of slimy roots on the trail. Trails are very rural, meaning they are not groomed, very rough tough N. E. , PA. singletrack.
Lee is on a Redline single speed 29er, I'm on a Gary Fisher HiFi Deluxe 29er.

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I live right around the corner. I love this place. Great videos. I still can't decide if I like riding my 29'er or 26" better @ this park. Super technical but lots of fun.
 

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NEPMTBA and myself hit up Prompton State Park on the hottest day of the year!
Trail conditions wet and very slippery, tons of moss covered rocks and thousands of slimy roots on the trail. Trails are very rural, meaning they are not groomed, very rough tough N. E. , PA. singletrack.
Lee is on a Redline single speed 29er, I'm on a Gary Fisher HiFi Deluxe 29er.

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I was wondering was this the 1st time there ?Lee knows me ,I`am the guy that made the trails here.I see you guys did the red trail around ,do ya really think its that tough & did you like the place?I don`t know why more people don`t ride here & climb up & do the upper trails ,lots of flow & not too rocky(I really don`t think the red is all that rocky)I not sure if many people know there is over 25+ miles of trails here .When I have the time 3 to 4 hrs I ride them all I think its a real good ride.I know it get slimy when its hot & sticky out but that goes for a lot of places around here.I don`t know if ya notice how well the trails were cut back but only two guys did all that work ,me & my bud Ron & he did the most this year.I also notice a guy put a review up saying thing like you need platform pedals to ride here ,its all rocky ,don`t ride alone(Ido all the time)no hills ( he should see a GPS profile of the place )& you`ll do a lot of damage to your bike here.I don`t want to put anyone down ,but what he said isn`t true ,maybe for a newbee I`ll leave it at that .anyway I hope you & everyone else who rides my trails likes them & has fun .KP
 

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Thank you for putting in all the great trails, a huge undertaking,

I meant no disrespect saying the trails were rural and not groomed, I only meant that they are in their natural condition, all the rocks are not pulled out, leaves not raked off and perfectly groomed, they are rough, tough, and quite a chalenge, which is what a lot of us look for.:thumbsup:
There is a lot of work put into these trails, lots of roman roads, and cutting back all those picker bushes must have been brutal, it's just not overdone, to make it easy.

Yes it was my first time there, we did stick to the Red trail around, it was so hot and humid there was no air, there's definately hills!

I did find it very challenging, the wet conditions added to that, but like you said thats pretty much anywhere when it's wet. I'm pretty new to the MTB scene maybe 7 months now, but I do have a Moto and Trials background that I draw from, the single track I used to ride on had zero maintinance on them, we wanted them as tough as possible, first time riders would ask us, how do you guy's ride fast on these trails, and we just smile, it made ridiing anywhere else easy.
I think we met Ron on the trail that day, he was running the opposite direction, we were telling him about a few possible obstacles on the trail.

I would like to get up there again under better conditions and check out some of the upper trails.

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I was wondering was this the 1st time there ?Lee knows me ,I`am the guy that made the trails here.I see you guys did the red trail around ,do ya really think its that tough & did you like the place?I don`t know why more people don`t ride here & climb up & do the upper trails ,lots of flow & not too rocky(I really don`t think the red is all that rocky)I not sure if many people know there is over 25+ miles of trails here .When I have the time 3 to 4 hrs I ride them all I think its a real good ride.I know it get slimy when its hot & sticky out but that goes for a lot of places around here.I don`t know if ya notice how well the trails were cut back but only two guys did all that work ,me & my bud Ron & he did the most this year.I also notice a guy put a review up saying thing like you need platform pedals to ride here ,its all rocky ,don`t ride alone(Ido all the time)no hills ( he should see a GPS profile of the place )& you`ll do a lot of damage to your bike here.I don`t want to put anyone down ,but what he said isn`t true ,maybe for a newbee I`ll leave it at that .anyway I hope you & everyone else who rides my trails likes them & has fun .KP
 

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Are there any trail maps for Prompton?

I'll be in Waymart this weekend and sounds like Prompton would be perfect for my rigid SS.

If I had to choose between Merli or Prompton, which would be a better choice?
 

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Are there any trail maps for Prompton?

I'll be in Waymart this weekend and sounds like Prompton would be perfect for my rigid SS.

If I had to choose between Merli or Prompton, which would be a better choice?
We found trail maps at one of the signs on the RED trail near the end, or not to far from the park running the other direction.
 

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Well, it was me who wrote the review. I find the trails just too rocky and the nice fast section where you can really fly are just too short. The hills are maybe 150' vertical climbs. Not enough if you are looking for a high cardio workout. I rode a lot in the Catskills in 2007 and 2008 with 2000' climbs so Prompton feels flat to me. Last year I spent many days at Highland Lakes, Stewart, Blue Mountain, 909 and the trails at those parks are much more fun to me. I like going fast in the woods on smooth singletracks. Basically what you see on the video, which are the nicest parts of the trail network at Prompton. I was hoping to make a map of Prompton but the gentlemen we met on the trails couple months ago never contacted me. He was mapping out the trails with GPS and I offered to make an official map for the display kiosk. I own a mapping business.
 

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Pay no attention to beav700 he has a bad back and can't handle the extreme awesomeness of this park. My only complaint for this place is I never see other riders. I would love to ride this area with some new people. The upper loops are the best. I love the Cliff,Pine Creek, Blueberry Trail loop. I will give it to the Beav (ha, I said give it to the Beav) I think it's hemlock trail, will rattle your teeth loose. That trail is a rock garden, uber technical, balancing act. ( I ride a hard tail) But still a lot of fun.
 

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Click on my signature to get the map. Upper right corner on maps tab.

Mikevinw, I think you're thinking of Bone Ridge trail?

Cross the dam, Hemlock, (Bone ridge optional), High ridge, Sugar shack, Eagle pass, Pine creek, Blueberry, (Cliff trail optional), East shore/Old 170 out. Make a left on rt 170 and another Left at the RC Airplane field. Follow it to the end and mix West shore and Orchard accordingly. Distance will be around 15-18 miles.

HT friendly too. Ttyl, Fahn
 

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Well, it was me who wrote the review. I find the trails just too rocky and the nice fast section where you can really fly are just too short. The hills are maybe 150' vertical climbs. Not enough if you are looking for a high cardio workout. I rode a lot in the Catskills in 2007 and 2008 with 2000' climbs so Prompton feels flat to me. Last year I spent many days at Highland Lakes, Stewart, Blue Mountain, 909 and the trails at those parks are much more fun to me. I like going fast in the woods on smooth singletracks. Basically what you see on the video, which are the nicest parts of the trail network at Prompton. I was hoping to make a map of Prompton but the gentlemen we met on the trails couple months ago never contacted me. He was mapping out the trails with GPS and I offered to make an official map for the display kiosk. I own a mapping business.
You are right in the fact we don`t have 2000ft climbs here ,not even on the road.I raced many years up & down the east coast including all the places you listed & most all the ski resort races in the catskills ,VT ,NH, MASS,&ME& I don`t think they had 2000ft climbs .But like I said if you saw a GPS profile you would see there is a lot more than ya think,just not all at once I set them up that way so not to kill people.I don`t know if ya did all the upper trails they have some longer smoother parts & the white trail down from the boat launch has two new buff twisty sections.Hey I`am not saying the place is buff smooth ,but its not all rock garden unridable bike breaking scary place .I do have to say ,platform pedals? come on I have ridden allthe trails up here in a day & not put a foot down & other days should have went for a road ride.THe video is of the red trail & its a good trail but its not near as nice as all the upper trails,if ya want I would show ya around,just let me know.I already GPS & mapped but these other guys want to because they found out there is grant money available for the park but we don`t get it for trail stuff they get for doing the GPS & mapping plius they don`t ride or know the trails(in it for the money)Anyway if ya ever get up to VT try the kingdom trails In east burke what a blast I go up 1 to 2 times a year no rocks at all ,but I still love my prompton come ride with me .happy trail KP
 

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Pay no attention to beav700 he has a bad back and can't handle the extreme awesomeness of this park. My only complaint for this place is I never see other riders. I would love to ride this area with some new people. The upper loops are the best. I love the Cliff,Pine Creek, Blueberry Trail loop. I will give it to the Beav (ha, I said give it to the Beav) I think it's hemlock trail, will rattle your teeth loose. That trail is a rock garden, uber technical, balancing act. ( I ride a hard tail) But still a lot of fun.
Hmmm, who snapped his chain on the red loop and had to walk back, then the next weekend cramped up and couldn't ride back to the car, then just last weekend couldn't make it up the tiny hills with them bold Kenda tires. If you see a guy just walking his orange Klein or blue Cannondale lefty 29er, it's this bad a$$.
 

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Pay no attention to beav700 he has a bad back and can't handle the extreme awesomeness of this park. My only complaint for this place is I never see other riders. I would love to ride this area with some new people. The upper loops are the best. I love the Cliff,Pine Creek, Blueberry Trail loop. I will give it to the Beav (ha, I said give it to the Beav) I think it's hemlock trail, will rattle your teeth loose. That trail is a rock garden, uber technical, balancing act. ( I ride a hard tail) But still a lot of fun.
Hey let me know when ya can ride I ride 3-4-5 times a week am pm when ever any day I ride the trails I make.Looks like you know most of the stuff ,but you may have missed some;) happy trails KP
 

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Hmmm, who snapped his chain on the red loop and had to walk back, then the next weekend cramped up and couldn't ride back to the car, then just last weekend couldn't make it up the tiny hills with them bold Kenda tires. If you see a guy just walking his orange Klein or blue Cannondale lefty 29er, it's this bad a$$.
Easy there, Crash. My new tires are here today. Then I climb like goat, Comrade.
 

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You are right in the fact we don`t have 2000ft climbs here ,not even on the road.I raced many years up & down the east coast including all the places you listed & most all the ski resort races in the catskills ,VT ,NH, MASS,&ME& I don`t think they had 2000ft climbs .But like I said if you saw a GPS profile you would see there is a lot more than ya think,just not all at once I set them up that way so not to kill people.I don`t know if ya did all the upper trails they have some longer smoother parts & the white trail down from the boat launch has two new buff twisty sections.Hey I`am not saying the place is buff smooth ,but its not all rock garden unridable bike breaking scary place .I do have to say ,platform pedals? come on I have ridden allthe trails up here in a day & not put a foot down & other days should have went for a road ride.THe video is of the red trail & its a good trail but its not near as nice as all the upper trails,if ya want I would show ya around,just let me know.I already GPS & mapped but these other guys want to because they found out there is grant money available for the park but we don`t get it for trail stuff they get for doing the GPS & mapping plius they don`t ride or know the trails(in it for the money)Anyway if ya ever get up to VT try the kingdom trails In east burke what a blast I go up 1 to 2 times a year no rocks at all ,but I still love my prompton come ride with me .happy trail KP
The guy I spoke with was the guy you are talking about since he was all excited about the new grant they got.

I think I rode all the trails except BoneRidge which I hear has even more rocks. I'll stick to smooth trails till my lower back recovers. If you want, you can send me the GPS tracks and I'll make a nice PDF map and upload it on my server. my e-mail is [email protected] I can post some samples and you guys can pick which map would look the best. Here is something I just made in few minutes without trails or labels or anything, just to show different colors.

 
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