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what would you reccomend?

190lb rider
FS 29er
xc specific-small drops, jumps
very wheel friendly(historically) rider

Doing a little advance research for a hopefully stupid light BUT dependable build. I threw the budget concept away when looking for a new road bike last spring, so the same should apply for a new 29er shouldn't it?

Idea's with specific's please-weight and 15qr compatibility important.I've gleemed thru lots of posts, and checked the reviews. I have a couple of sets in mind for starters, Bontranger XXX lite carbon-Stan's best, where else should I look. I know Renyolds can build a set, Easton?

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I would say Edge rims, I9 hubs, and any good double butted 14/15 spoke. At 190, you can't go much lighter in spoke gauge. Maybe DT 240 or 190 hubs, but the I9's are convertible for different axles, and made near me so I am partial to them.

Works well tubeless, nearly zero maintenance, stupid light, but exceptionally strong.

Not cheap at all.
 

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I-9 wheels with Edge Carbon rims
I'm not sure if the Alu spokes will work. If not, consider Sapim CX-Ray with "conventional" I-9 hub.
QR15 front, 10mm thru-bolt rear
Tubeless
 

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love my edge xc rims on king hubs with dt aerolite spokes...i couldnt ask for more.
 

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I started heavier than you and now weigh a little less. I also ride light and am easy on wheels. I'm also on a FS 29er. With that said...

King hubs (mine is 20mm)
Stans ZTR 355's
DT Supercomps
Alloy nipples.

This setup has seen some serious abuse for almost a year and 16 xc/endurance races. Only needed minimal tuning.

Good luck in your choice.
 

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Not sure if Edge is making the 29er version of their MTB tubular rim yet, but if they are, I'd get some of those, and some custom Dugast tubulars to throw on there as well.

And, of course, build them up with DT Swiss 190 hubs, and Sapim CX-Ray spokes.
 

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MarcusSommers said:
Maybe DT 240 or 190 hubs, but the I9's are convertible for different axles, and made near me so I am partial to them.
FYI-the DT Swiss 240 OS front hub is also compatible with QR, 9mm thru bolt, 15mm thru axle, and 20mm thru axle.

Cost no object would be:

DT Swiss 240 hubs
DT Supercomps
Alloy Nipples
Stans Arch 29 rims
1745 grams

Nothing fancy but solid and reliable
 

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Le Duke said:
Not sure if Edge is making the 29er version of their MTB tubular rim yet, but if they are, I'd get some of those, and some custom Dugast tubulars to throw on there as well.
i hear that geax tubulars will be available also pretty soon. but tubulars in general are pretty useless outside of racing, not sure the OP had that intention...
 

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DT Swiss 240
Sapim CX Ray
Edge rims

of course you could get fiarly close in performance and durability for less than 1/2 the cost, but that's not what you want.
comments about spoke gauge vs. weight are just dead wrong until you get well into clyde territory, especially if you're light on wheels.

if i were building my own wheels, i'd probably go with Hope Pro II, DT Revos, and 355s, for ~1600g and great durability for what i do (hard, rocky XC in Texas, weighing in at ~205 lbs).
 

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meltingfeather said:
DT Revos, and 355s
great durability for what i do (hard, rocky XC in Texas, weighing in at ~205 lbs).
I'm not saying that you can't, or shouldn't, I'm just boggled that at your weight you can run that combo and manage to keep the bike on the trail.

Good on ya for making it work somehow.

MC
 

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mikesee said:
I'm not saying that you can't, or shouldn't, I'm just boggled that at your weight you can run that combo and manage to keep the bike on the trail.

Good on ya for making it work somehow.

MC
Yeah, I would have to be able to lift someone with one arm before I would use revolutions and 355's together for a 29er build.
 

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mikesee said:
I'm not saying that you can't, or shouldn't, I'm just boggled that at your weight you can run that combo and manage to keep the bike on the trail.

Good on ya for making it work somehow.

MC
Interesting. I've got Revos on 4 of 6 bikes (dually, hard tail, loaded tourer, and fixed commuter, all 700c wheels... velocity vxc's, 355s, dyads, and deep v's, respecively) and have never had a problem or concern. maybe i ride so clean that i'm allowed the mind-boggling :cool: :eek: maybe revos can handle more than most people think they can. :thumbsup:
i ride my mountain bikes hard in very rocky terrain, including some modest drops; race marathon/endurance and cat 2 xc; and have been nothing but pleased with all the wheels i built and ride. i don't know about, "making it work," I just ride hard and don't worry about my wheels at all. i've also built wheels with revos for other racers (marathon/endurance and cat 1 & 2 xc), including clydes, and have never had a wheel come back with a problem.
 

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My issue is not with the durability of revolutions, its just they are flexy at the tension and length required for a 355 29er rim. I have used them on plenty of 26" builds with a mavic or DT rim. Just never a 29er build, for both sides of both wheels.

Good job if it works, but be careful if selling them. I also think Dyads are kind of weak, loose fitting rims, so it just goes to show that different things must work for different people.
 

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MarcusSommers said:
My issue is not with the durability of revolutions, its just they are flexy at the tension and length required for a 355 29er rim. I have used them on plenty of 26" builds with a mavic or DT rim. Just never a 29er build, for both sides of both wheels.

Good job if it works, but be careful if selling them. I also think Dyads are kind of weak, loose fitting rims, so it just goes to show that different things must work for different people.
yeah... i can't say i notice differences in flex. different bikes/set-ups definitely feel different, but calling it wheel stiffness is a stretch i can't make. where a wheel with 2.0 SG spokes will deflect 0.5mm, a wheel built with 1.45mm butted spokes will deflect 0.55mm. do i think i can tell the 0.05mm difference through the tires, fork, frame, and other components? no. i won't tell you that you can't, but i will say that i find it highly unlikely. not a knock... just my opinion (relatively worthless).
plenty of other people hold your opinion. maybe there's something to it. i just don't see it.
not sure about the dyads. my touring build only has about 1000 miles on it, mostly not loaded, and i haven't had an issue. time will tell. i have confidence in most velocity products, the guys at velocity usa have been super helpful, and i liked the width, so i tried them. they were very flat and round out of the box (typical for velocity) and haven't moved a millimeter in 1000 miles.
i won't sell anything i'm not comfortable with and i look out pretty well for myself. it's worked out fine thus far. most of my 'customers' are friends/teammates who know the components they want (for the most part) when they come to me. wheelbuilding isn't my bread and butter.
 

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Lilkev said:
Call Dave and look no further!

http://speeddream.com/
Dave built my most recent disc crosser wheelset. Naturally, light was irrelevent on a disc cross bike. I went for pretty, and bomb proof-Velocity VXC disc specific rims(orange to match the bike) DT240 disc hubs, black spokes/nipples of Daves choice. the wheelset is spectacular to say the least. final weight was about 1750gr.

I just saw the write up on MBA.com about the Edge composite 29 race wheelset...like 1350 freaking grams with 240's! Yea, and just over $2K also.

The bike will have another wheelset for sure, for the real rocky places I ride. The majority of the singletrack around Central New York that I ride wouldn't hurt a fancy carbon light race wheelset IMHO.

The bike will be raced, but simply trailridden a $hit load more than raced. And...I have no interest in tubies, for my crossbikes nor mtn bikes.

Tubeless since probably 2003, and loving it.
 

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I just scrolled down really fast but I saw Edge and DT a few times. That's what I would get. 190 hubs, DT spokes, Edge rims.
 
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