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this wheelbuild project started in Nov 2009 - bet your glad i waited to start this thread ;)

rims

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/4342546854/" title="290g NoTubes Podium MMX 32h MTB rim #1 - 08.02.10 #7969 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2723/4342546854_0718dee07e_z.jpg" width="506" height="640" alt="290g NoTubes Podium MMX 32h MTB rim #1 - 08.02.10 #7969 v2" /></a>
ZTR Podium MMX rim #1

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/4341855511/" title="291g NoTubes Podium MMX 32h MTB rim #2 - 08.02.10 #7974 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2771/4341855511_59c6da2db6_z.jpg" width="491" height="640" alt="291g NoTubes Podium MMX 32h MTB rim #2 - 08.02.10 #7974 v2" /></a>
ZTR Podium MMX rim #2

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5105742037/" title="4g Stans NoTubes Podium MMX stickers from 2 rims - 22.10.10 #5150 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm2.static.flickr.com/1156/5105742037_20da6ac9b5_z.jpg" width="518" height="640" alt="4g Stans NoTubes Podium MMX stickers from 2 rims - 22.10.10 #5150 v2" /></a>
peeled stickers from both rims

spokes

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5448184993/" title="29.7g 8x Sapim Super Spoke 264mm black round spokes - 15.02.11 #7954 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4116/5448184993_8b031033e7_z.jpg" width="640" height="185" alt="29.7g 8x Sapim Super Spoke 264mm black round spokes - 15.02.11 #7954 v2" /></a>
8x Sapim Super Spoke 264mm black round spokes

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5448785688/" title="29.9g 8x Sapim Super Spoke 266mm black round spokes - 15.02.11 #7958 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5220/5448785688_5d3b56329a_z.jpg" width="640" height="193" alt="29.9g 8x Sapim Super Spoke 266mm black round spokes - 15.02.11 #7958 v2" /></a>
8x Sapim Super Spoke 266mm black round spokes

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5533372295/" title="10.7g 32x 1.8 x 12mm Sapim Polyax Super Spoke spoke nips - 16.03.11 #8760 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5059/5533372295_827fa30096_z.jpg" width="640" height="357" alt="10.7g 32x 1.8 x 12mm Sapim Polyax Super Spoke spoke nips - 16.03.11 #8760 v2" /></a>
32x 1.8 x 12mm Sapim Polyax Super Spoke nips

front hub

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/4803616514/" title="silver Tune Princess 32h MTB front hub on scales - 17.07.10 #0761 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/4803616514_52dbea60b7_z.jpg" width="448" height="640" alt="silver Tune Princess 32h MTB front hub on scales - 17.07.10 #0761 v2" /></a>
silver Tune Princess 32h

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5373883721/" title="8.1g 1x steel 8303 hub bearing - 19.01.11 #6738 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5085/5373883721_5dd9f99322_z.jpg" width="640" height="381" alt="8.1g 1x steel 8303 hub bearing - 19.01.11 #6738 v2" /></a>
steel 8303 hub bearing

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5325352808/" title="7g Enduro Zero hybrid ceramic 6803 hub bearing - 04.01.11 #6252 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5209/5325352808_83f710ffec_z.jpg" width="640" height="418" alt="7g Enduro Zero hybrid ceramic 6803 hub bearing - 04.01.11 #6252 v2" /></a>
Enduro Zero hybrid ceramic 6803 hub bearing

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5452132919/" title="104.6g Tune Princess MTB front hub + Enduro Zero hybrid ceramic bearings on scales - 16.02.11 #8131 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4081/5452132919_8d354ec0c7_z.jpg" width="640" height="324" alt="104.6g Tune Princess MTB front hub + Enduro Zero hybrid ceramic bearings on scales - 16.02.11 #8131 v2" /></a>
Tune Princess MTB front hub + Enduro Zero hybrid ceramic bearings (argh. must have used too much grease on re-assembly)

rear hub

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/4587640253/" title="265g '10 DT Swiss 240s rear hub 1 - 07.05.10 #0010 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4587640253_6d4ba65291_z.jpg" width="448" height="640" alt="265g '10 DT Swiss 240s rear hub 1 - 07.05.10 #0010 v2" /></a>
DT Swiss 240s 6-bolt 32h rear hub

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/4818483939/" title="83g '10 DT Swiss 240s 6-bolt 32h hubshell - 22.07.10 #0885 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4117/4818483939_3beab2d185_z.jpg" width="492" height="640" alt="83g '10 DT Swiss 240s 6-bolt 32h hubshell - 22.07.10 #0885 v2" /></a>
DT Swiss 240s 6-bolt 32h hubshell

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5063296717/" title="75g supertune DT Swiss 240s hubshell - 08.09.10 #4723 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4126/5063296717_837696c575_z.jpg" width="506" height="640" alt="75g supertune DT Swiss 240s hubshell - 08.09.10 #4723 v2" /></a>
supertune DT 240s 6-bolt 32h hubshell

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5493237507/" title="23.4g DT Swiss 18 pt. solid star ratchets #1 - 02.03.11 #8498 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5135/5493237507_4fffeb48a2_z.jpg" width="640" height="349" alt="23.4g DT Swiss 18 pt. solid star ratchets #1 - 02.03.11 #8498 v2" /></a>
DT Swiss 18pt solid star ratchets (standard issue with 2010 DT 240s hubs)

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5493821938/" title="14g DT Swiss 18 pt. hollow star ratchets - 02.03.11 #8491 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5053/5493821938_08a7a8ea7a_z.jpg" width="640" height="350" alt="14g DT Swiss 18 pt. hollow star ratchets - 02.03.11 #8491 v2" /></a>
DT Swiss 18 pt. hollow star ratchets (standard issue with 2010 DT 190 CL hubs)

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5493234873/" title="14.7g DT Swiss 36 pt. hollow star ratchets #2 - 02.03.11 #8496 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5214/5493234873_ebeee30ea2_z.jpg" width="640" height="341" alt="14.7g DT Swiss 36 pt. hollow star ratchets #2 - 02.03.11 #8496 v2" /></a>
DT Swiss 36 pt. hollow Star Ratchet (0.7g weight penalty for extra engagment - i'm okay with that!)

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5106343858/" title="30g DT Swiss steel 6902 bearing set - 22.10.10 #5137 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm2.static.flickr.com/1089/5106343858_13ddd75d1e_z.jpg" width="481" height="640" alt="30g DT Swiss steel 6902 bearing set - 22.10.10 #5137 v2" /></a>
2x DT Swiss steel 6902 bearings

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5105752583/" title="28g Enduro Zero hybrid ceramic 6902 bearing set - 22.10.10 #5131 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm2.static.flickr.com/1195/5105752583_f4e842b913_z.jpg" width="505" height="640" alt="28g Enduro Zero hybrid ceramic 6902 bearing set - 22.10.10 #5131 v2" /></a>
2x Enduro Zero hybrid ceramic 6902 bearings

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5106349520/" title="69g 2010 DT Swiss 240s freehub - 22.10.10 #5121 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/5106349520_21f4faae8f_z.jpg" width="445" height="640" alt="69g 2010 DT Swiss 240s freehub - 22.10.10 #5121 v2" /></a>
DT Swiss 240s freehub

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5106352064/" title="53g 2010 DT Swiss 190 CL freehub - 22.10.10 #5124 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm2.static.flickr.com/1087/5106352064_a6ae6a4259_z.jpg" width="425" height="640" alt="53g 2010 DT Swiss 190 CL freehub - 22.10.10 #5124 v2" /></a>
DT Swiss 190 CL freehub

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5105760431/" title="259g tuned 2010 DT Swiss 240s 6bolt rear hub - 22.10.10 #5139 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm2.static.flickr.com/1241/5105760431_de5595417b_z.jpg" width="430" height="640" alt="259g tuned 2010 DT Swiss 240s 6bolt rear hub - 22.10.10 #5139 v2" /></a>
DT Swiss 240s 6-bolt rear hub + tuned hubshell

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5105763019/" title="232g tuned 2010 DT Swiss 240s 6bolt rear hub - 22.10.10 #5148 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm2.static.flickr.com/1245/5105763019_d33550876c_z.jpg" width="421" height="640" alt="232g tuned 2010 DT Swiss 240s 6bolt rear hub - 22.10.10 #5148 v2" /></a>
DT Swiss 240s 6-bolt rear hub + tuned hubshell + Enduro Zero hcb + 190 freehb + 36 star rat

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5452135965/" title="233.4g tuned DT Swiss 240s rear hub + Enduro Zero hybrid ceramic bearings - on scales - 16.02.11 #8126 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5174/5452135965_229f256b14_z.jpg" width="640" height="331" alt="233.4g tuned DT Swiss 240s rear hub + Enduro Zero hybrid ceramic bearings - on scales - 16.02.11 #8126 v2" /></a>
tuned DT Swiss 240s rear hub re-assembled

valves & collars

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5493226101/" title="10.6g 2xStans Olympic valves - 02.03.11 #8487 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5014/5493226101_691f6aa7cf_z.jpg" width="640" height="335" alt="10.6g 2xStans Olympic valves - 02.03.11 #8487 v2" /></a>
2x Stans Olympic valves

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5493223643/" title="2.1g 2xStans Olympic valve collars - 02.03.11 #8486 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5140/5493223643_bf29cc0235_z.jpg" width="640" height="336" alt="2.1g 2xStans Olympic valve collars - 02.03.11 #8486 v2" /></a>
2x Stans Olympic steel valve collars

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/culturesponge/5493814860/" title="0.7g 2x Purely Custom silver ano alloy valve collars - 02.03.11 #8484 v2 by culturesponge, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5015/5493814860_3b6a2acd32_z.jpg" width="640" height="358" alt="0.7g 2x Purely Custom silver ano alloy valve collars - 02.03.11 #8484 v2" /></a>
2x Purely Custom silver ano alloy valve collars

was going to pick up the rims tomorrow, they are to be powder coated satin finish white - but the job was pushed back & will have to wait a few more days before dropping everything off with Rich Sawiris our fave SoCal wheelbuilder

weights
Sapim SuperSpokes - 237.6g total
Sapim Poyax nips - 23.2g total
tuned DT Swiss 240s 32h 6-bolt - 233.4.g
Tune Princess 32h 6-bolt - 104.6g
Podium MMX 32h x2 - 581g (perhaps 30g more after powder coating white?)

total wheelset weight: 1180g ? ...or more likely somewhere near 1230g?

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i should be getting my mack front hub here soon at 81g :)
you should get on the wait list for the front one in orange!

what bike is this going on? yours are always black now polished and white?!
 

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facelessfools said:
i should be getting my mack front hub here soon at 81g :)
you should get on the wait list for the front one in orange!

what bike is this going on? yours are always black now polished and white?!
the Podium wheelset is for mrs culturesponge's white & reflexite Vertex 70

rims were going to be buff raw alloy but she'd rather them semi matte white instead so there you go

81g hubs sound too flexy for racing ...well at least for me @ 74kg ;)

will update with new white Podium MMX rim pics on scales soon

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the weight limit is 70kg.. im just around 61kg though.. so plenty stiff for me!

thats going to be one awesome wheelset though. incredibly light!
 

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facelessfools said:
the weight limit is 70kg.. im just around 61kg though.. so plenty stiff for me!

thats going to be one awesome wheelset though. incredibly light!
thanks,

i'm suprised you can break things being so light ;)

possibly ... for a clincher wheelset at least - my XRC 300 wheelset came in at 1199g, really wanted to beat that - but will be happy to finally get those rims laced up and on a bike

but it really depends now on the powder coating - we chose the best in the area - Embee in Santa Ana - but it could very easily undo all the hours i spent supertuning that DT 240 hub

want to see a wheelbuild thread with your trick mack wheelset :thumbsup:
 

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well the front should be in transit on Monday and i have the rims here.

the rear i may opt for the light version at 220g instead of the 199g superlight for a 40 euro difference but i think i should just go all the way and get the lighter. the only difference is hybrid bearings and a lighter freehub.

so the math 655g rims 281g hubs roughly 280g spokes(if i go heavy) and 30g nipples adds up to 1246 but could be sub 1200 with ti spokes.
 

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Sponge, why not the matching Prince rear hub @ 190 grams now that Tune has the reliability issues sorted out.
 

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facelessfools said:
well the front should be in transit on Monday and i have the rims here.

the rear i may opt for the light version at 220g instead of the 199g superlight for a 40 euro difference but i think i should just go all the way and get the lighter. the only difference is hybrid bearings and a lighter freehub.

so the math 655g rims 281g hubs roughly 280g spokes(if i go heavy) and 30g nipples adds up to 1246 but could be sub 1200 with ti spokes.
mathmatics can be very cruel - i'd recc to go as light as possible :thumbsup:

what rims?

Ti's a great choice for spokes - expensive though

...start a thread! :)
 

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xc71 said:
Sponge, why not the matching Prince rear hub @ 190 grams now that Tune has the reliability issues sorted out.
thanks

great idea & the matching new 92g Princess Skyline is a work of art too - but - wheelsets for the wife & she'd purchased those Podium rims ect back in Dec '09 from dulite.fr - its taken eons to get this far :madman:

"perfect" weight weenie 29er wheelset could be
front hub. 78g Tune HyperFront : http://www.extralite.com/index_euro.htm
rear hub. 150g Tune Prince Dezible: http://www.tune.de/index.php?option...dezibel&catid=1:disc-naben&Itemid=143&lang=en
rims. 255g AX Lightness SRT CC 29er: http://www.ax-lightness.de/xist4c/web/AX---tubular-rim-SRT-CC-29er_id_21273__dId_5610_.htm
spokes. Tune Super Spokes: http://www.tune.de/index.php?option...erspoke&catid=127:speichen&Itemid=219&lang=en
tires. Racing Ralph HT 29x2.00: http://www.schwalbe.com/gbl/en/prod...reich=5&tn_mainPoint=Produkte&tn_subPoint=MTB

just need to win the national lottery & 29 RR HT become available - c'mon Schwalbe

...edit to tweak "perfect" wheelset...
 

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xc71 said:
Sponge, why not the matching Prince rear hub @ 190 grams now that Tune has the reliability issues sorted out.
Is there any article somewhere about this change in Tune rear hubs? What have they done to fix the problems?
 

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Is there any article somewhere about this change in Tune rear hubs? What have they done to fix the problems?
Don't know the details on what they changed. But I haven't heard of one issue with new version.If you go to fairwheelbikes.com they still have both new and older versions for sale, they could probably answer your question.
 

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bikemaniack said:
culturesponge you can polish the rims like eliflap done this few months ago. for 2 rims he saved 27 grams.
+100 ;)

it would be really boss - especially with matching silver hubs & was all set to do just that ...but the rims/wheelset is not mine & madame culturesponge insists upon semi matte white rims to colour co-ordinate with her Vertex frameset :(

it only cost $40 to get both rims powdercoated but its taking abit longer than was told...

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