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Hello,

I vaguely remember there being an out and back route in the Phoenix Sonoran Preserve called the 7 Summits, but I can't find it anywhere.

I was hoping someone might be able to help me with this.

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TrailForks app can help-

From the Apache Wash lot:
1)up sidewinder to Apache Vista “lollipop” up and down, onto Apache Wash Loop (south)
2) up and over Razorback ridge, onto Sidewinder, westbound.
3,4) over the two big climbs westbound, to the smaller lot off of Carefree Hwy
5,6) Eastbound back over the two big climbs back to Razorback ridge.
7) Razorback ridge from South to North, ocotillo into the AW lot.


I’m pretty sure there’s a Strava segment called “The Seven Bitches”


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From the Apache Wash lot:
1)up sidewinder to Apache Vista “lollipop” up and down, onto Apache Wash Loop (south)
2) up and over Razorback ridge, onto Sidewinder, westbound.
3,4) over the two big climbs westbound, to the smaller lot off of Carefree Hwy
5,6) Eastbound back over the two big climbs back to Razorback ridge.
7) Razorback ridge from South to North, ocotillo into the AW lot.


I’m pretty sure there’s a Strava segment called “The Seven Bitches”


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Perfect, thanks so much.

I was looking on Strava for "Seven Summits".
 

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This is my version. Not sure if this is 7 or 5. 5 of the climbs are tougher than the other 2.

Park at AW, ride back to the entrance, cross Sonoran Pkwy.
follow dirt road to fence, go to left of fence until it turns into a trail.
Trail will T into Cactus Wren, go left on CW
Cactus Wren runs into Great Horned Owl, go straight on GHO around mountain until at top of first climb, go left on Valle Vista
Downhill on Valle Vista go left at Desert Tortoise
DT until Hawksnest, go right on H start climbing,
Go right on to Dixie Mountain, keep climbing.
At the top top keep going and descend to Bobcat
Bobcat to the road. At the road get on Paloma Pkwy ride to Sonoran Pkwy.
Straight across Sonoran and go into the desert on a dirt road.
Follow Dirt Road, first right, short ride, jump a fence.
Ride up to Ocotillo, go left and do the last climb on O
Take O to Carefree HWY TH. Climb up first Sidewinder Climb.
Stay on Sidewinder and go up the nasty water tank climb after Ocotillo intersection.
Stay on Sidewinder until you get to Ridgeback, go right and climb.
After summit, stay on ridgeback go to the bottom where it intersects Ocotillo.
Go left on O, then left on AW, then right on SW
Follow SW until you get to Apache Vista, go right and climb up down then take SW back to TH.

That ride for me is 23 miles and 2400'.


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If you want something similar at other areas after you knock this out, here's a couple I did some years ago:

Hit all the passes in the McDowell's including all three trails up Tom's Thumb: McDowell Madness - John Schilling's 47.1 mi mountain bike ride

I'm not really sure what my intended goal was for this one at South Mountain, but it crosses something like 8 passes: SoMo: Sawtooth 70 - John Schilling's 72.6 mi mountain bike ride
My god... how many trails did you have to double up on and how many times at SoMo to get that much mileage?
 

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My god... how many trails did you have to double up on and how many times at SoMo to get that much mileage?
Haha, not much doubling up at all. That's part of the fun, coming up with an efficient route. How many times?? Once. :)

I've done a couple Traveling Salesman routes too, those are fun to figure out. Those are best viewed on the Relive app. Here are my two favorite ones:

Hawes: Hawes: Traveling Salesman - John Schilling's 63.8 mi mountain bike ride

Gold Canyon: Gold Canyon: Everything but the Kitchen Sink. - John Schilling's 50.9 mi mountain bike ride

Those routes had a bit more doubletracking, but not too bad.
 

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I guess now that I think of it, I haven't ridden many (if any) of the perimeter trails out at SoMo. I always feel like that place is compact, but that's probably because most rides revolve around the typical National and Mormon trails.
 

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I guess now that I think of it, I haven't ridden many (if any) of the perimeter trails out at SoMo. I always feel like that place is compact, but that's probably because most rides revolve around the typical National and Mormon trails.
For sure, don't get sucked into that trap!! While that's a great section of trail, SoMo has so much to offer. Plus, they've been busy building new trails since that silly ride I did. The new Ma Ha Tuak trail is cool and they recently added a parallel trail to Desert Classic which I believe will become the Guadalupe Perimeter trail. They are building out the approved master plan from 2017?? Still more to come.
 
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