Paradox vs Yelli

Looking good. Mines on order from Si at Progressive - should be here mid-March. Can't wait!
Any others in the UK do you know?

Nice frame. I own a Paradox. I've been very happy with it. That Yelli looks sweet. Cant wait to see your build

Mmmmm, very interested to see both bikes, as I'm torn between the two.....

We've got both in my riding crew. I've modeled both in CAD and the geometry is very close, it's nearly splitting hairs...comparing mediums, paradox has a bit shorter top tube & slightly taller standover. Yelli has maybe a touch more tire clerance, but both are excellent, and the Paradox has ISCG tabs...one thing I am curious about is seat droppage, it's basically 5" max on the medium yelli due to the WB bolts, which the paradox doesn't have... but it does have a kink in the seat tube. I wonder if you can drop the saddle lower on the paradox, haven't checked.

Both freaking excellent bikes! Ahead of their time! Can't wait to see the prime...

Gepruts said:

Mmmmm, very interested to see both bikes, as I'm torn between the two.....

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I was in the same position.....and it was coming down to a coin toss.
some excellent customer service from Chris Canfield swayed me to the Yelli.
I don't think you can go wrong with either bike.

FM said:

We've got both in my riding crew. I've modeled both in CAD and the geometry is very close, it's nearly splitting hairs...comparing mediums, paradox has a bit shorter top tube & slightly taller standover. Yelli has maybe a touch more tire clerance, but both are excellent, and the Paradox has ISCG tabs...one thing I am curious about is seat droppage, it's basically 5" max on the medium yelli due to the WB bolts, which the paradox doesn't have... but it does have a kink in the seat tube. I wonder if you can drop the saddle lower on the paradox, haven't checked.

Both freaking excellent bikes! Ahead of their time! Can't wait to see the prime...

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I'm the Paracox rider. Having done a back to back ride comparison, both feel super stiff. I do love the lower standover on the Creamy, but couldn't drop the seat low enough. I'm getting ready to spring for a Reverb here pretty soon and will "post up".

the mayor said:

I was in the same position.....and it was coming down to a coin toss.
some excellent customer service from Chris Canfield swayed me to the Yelli.
I don't think you can go wrong with either bike.

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banshee has unreal customer service as well. They've been great!

FM said:

We've got both in my riding crew. I've modeled both in CAD and the geometry is very close, it's nearly splitting hairs...comparing mediums, paradox has a bit shorter top tube & slightly taller standover. Yelli has maybe a touch more tire clerance, but both are excellent, and the Paradox has ISCG tabs...one thing I am curious about is seat droppage, it's basically 5" max on the medium yelli due to the WB bolts, which the paradox doesn't have... but it does have a kink in the seat tube. I wonder if you can drop the saddle lower on the paradox, haven't checked.

Both freaking excellent bikes! Ahead of their time! Can't wait to see the prime...

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per the geo charts the ys head angle is 1 degree slacker?

HVskier said:

per the geo charts the ys head angle is 1 degree slacker?

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True. With a 15mm stack lower HS cup... if you ran an integrated lower they'd be nearly identical.

I don't understand the bottle cage bolts on the seat tube. You go to all the trouble to get wheel clearance and keep a straight seat tube only to interrupt it with a bottle cage. Does anyone make short bottle cage bolts just to fill the holes? I would have liked ISCG tabs too.

But on the good side, the anodized finish is great. The zero stack top gives me a little bit more space to play with. Maybe I wont need to run flat bars on this beauty. The stand-over is amazing and the top tube on the large is slightly longer, which I like. First ride impression seem to indicate the front doesn't get deflect quite as easily, must be that monster headtube. There does seem to be more tyre clearance too.

Need to get out onto the singletrack and ride!

Got a pic of it built? :thumbsup:

Great looking build! Best gold I've seen.

Unfortunately the seat post hits the WB bosses even with the bolts removed.
My guess is the canfield bros ride larger sizes where the WB boss locations aren't an issue. I wonder if the bosses could be reamed out from inside the seat tube... reverb is the simple fix.

Really infortunate that the yelli is almost twice the price of the Paradox in the Euro zone!

Any more info on ride comparison between the two Martin?

this is interesting... cant wait to here the review

Too muddy to get a proper ride. Half my local trails are closed and the other half are like pedalling through treacle.

martin_uk said:

Too muddy to get a proper ride. Half my local trails are closed and the other half are like pedalling through treacle.

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Closed trails? :eekster: