[teethandnails]

Hey folks;

I have a Banshee Paradox V3 size large. Have a Fox 36 Performance (2020) fork with 3 tokens, 72psi, 9 clicks from slow on rebound, open compression, set at 140mm. I weigh 175ish pounds w/o gear. This is normal air pressure I run on that fork to what I would run if it was bolted to a FS bike. I have a 29x2.6 Minion DHF 20psi front and 27.5x2.8 Minion DHR 16psi rear tire with cushcore pro in just the rear. I also run a 29x2.6 Rekon with cushcore XC for more pedally days. I know its a hard tail. I knows its going to be rougher, but it literally beats the tar out of me. Anything seem weird with my setup? I used to have a Commencal Meta HT with an Ohlins RXF36 with 160mm travel that rode much better with the same tire setup. Any criticism to my settings would be appreciated. On mellow XC trails its a hoot... at 27lbs w/o pedals it feels like a rocket ship, but the moment I start riding anything less smooth than literally smooth hard packed dirt the bike feels like I am riding a rigid. Thanks in advance for the help

 

[eb1888]

To bad you don't have the Ohlins to swap on and compare.
I'd work on the fork.
No, I'd put a Mezzer on it.

 

[BadgerOne]

I have found that in a general sense with hardtails, I run fewer tokens than FS. A more linear and less progressive compression seems to work better for them, at least on the rocky trails I tend to ride. Might want to take a token out, reset sag, and see how that treats you. Interesting issue, as the Commie is known as a very stiff and unforgiving frame.

 

[DirtMerchantBicycles]

Try a couple more clicks of rebound and compression out back.

I am a bit thrown off that you're able to run 16psi rear even with CushCore on front range trails, and that's -4psi compared to the front. Not a common setup.

Unlikely that more rear pressure will feel smoother to you, but more speed can allow you to skip over some of the small chatter. Fast and loose.

 

[Grinchy8]

I was going to suggest less rear pressure I”m somewhere around 14lb, but that’s with a Terrene McFly 27.5.x2.8 Light and cushcore+. I tried around 18 and around 16 and 14 was the clear winner. So mess about with rear pressures some. I suspect the DHR has a bit more casing than the McFly, so that’s saying you have room to go down in pressure.

 

[11053]

Specific to your fork- you may want to try a combination of more PSI and more compression.
Try that before pulling another token out.
Your spring psi could be a bit low.
You could be using too much travel and staying in the spiky/progressive range of the fork with your current settings.
Even though your rebound may be fast/within range, you may still be using too much travel and never recovering full travel between hits.

 

[biker human]

Hey folks;

I have a Banshee Paradox V3 size large. Have a Fox 36 Performance (2020) fork with 3 tokens, 72psi, 9 clicks from slow on rebound, open compression, set at 140mm. I weigh 175ish pounds w/o gear. This is normal air pressure I run on that fork to what I would run if it was bolted to a FS bike. I have a 29x2.6 Minion DHF 20psi front and 27.5x2.8 Minion DHR 16psi rear tire with cushcore pro in just the rear. I also run a 29x2.6 Rekon with cushcore XC for more pedally days. I know its a hard tail. I knows its going to be rougher, but it literally beats the tar out of me. Anything seem weird with my setup? I used to have a Commencal Meta HT with an Ohlins RXF36 with 160mm travel that rode much better with the same tire setup. Any criticism to my settings would be appreciated. On mellow XC trails its a hoot... at 27lbs w/o pedals it feels like a rocket ship, but the moment I start riding anything less smooth than literally smooth hard packed dirt the bike feels like I am riding a rigid. Thanks in advance for the help View attachment 1958957 View attachment 1958958

I'm know suspension expert, but I have always had luck with a stiffer rear tire and softer front.

 

[skunkybiker]

The Paradox has shorter chainstays and a steeper seatube angle than the Meta HT. I love my Paradox on loamy trails with a few roots and rocks thrown in, but I think its progressive geo and a 140mm fork probably just means that when you go fast on lots of rocks/roots/gnar you are going to get beat up. I wonder if a 29 x.2.5 in the rear would be smoother than a 27.5 x 2.8. I run a 2.4 Ardent in the rear at ~ 18psi it is reasonably forgiving.

 

[drog]

What about your bar/grips? It could be something isn't right there. I have a paradox and feel like the frame does a good job at absorbing the small chatter.