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I am sure I get a ton of flames on this one:

Please make gap jump 3 from top on Cougar save. This thing is dangerous in two ways:

1) :madman: It is deceptive. The danger of hitting it at the wrong speed is not easily recognizable for an intermediate rider. The booter looks tiny and the bowl is very shallow. Intermediate riders assume this is an easy stunt and hit it without realizing that landing on the exit of the bowl - front side of the landing - will very likely result in a serious crash.

(In contrast - jump one and two look scary with their big booters and deep ditches.:thumbsup: )

2) :madman: The bowl shaped gap leads riders coming in at medium speed into desaster. This weekend I saw several riders hitting the wrong side of the landing and go down. One is a broken clavicula.

I would like to see the bowl filled in.

(In contrast - the gap jump halfway down run 2 does not have a bowl. It can be landed anywhere. I saw several riders coming short and no damage done. :thumbsup: )

Please consider to increase the room for rider error on the trails.

Besides that: My wife, daughter and I had a blast. You guys did a fantastic job grooming the trails/stunts (besides the one) and the new trail with all the berms will be top notch.

Thank you!!!
 

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I can't believe no one has touched this:crazy:
 

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Why would an intermediate rider be riding the Cougar trail, which is (pretty clearly if I am not mistaken) marked as expert? Shouldn't ALL riders be checking ALL stunts, jumps, drops, and gaps before hitting them and assessing for themselves if they possess the necessary skill to clear them safely? Since when is it a trail crew's responsibility to save us all from our own lack of common sense?

I'm just asking, that's all...
 

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Full Trucker said:
Why would an intermediate rider be riding the Cougar trail, which is (pretty clearly if I am not mistaken) marked as expert? Shouldn't ALL riders be checking ALL stunts, jumps, drops, and gaps before hitting them and assessing for themselves if they possess the necessary skill to clear them safely? Since when is it a trail crew's responsibility to save us all from our own lack of common sense?

I'm just asking, that's all...
That is a great point about checking jumps first before you hit them.
I know others have mentioned it but I will say also that it would be cool if the trails offered multiple hit options.
I can still haul ass and tear sh*t up on black diamond trails but I usually keep my jumps under 15'.
 

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I like the two options on Cougar. The existing jump and the new "Edgar" gap.
On a perfect mountain that would be the case on every trail at every jump.;)
 

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Klaus - I think maybe you've spent too much time here - you're starting to sound dangerously American.

No offense intended, but if a person makes the mistake of underestimating the third gap on Cougar - the one clearly visible from the lift up, they need a few sharp blows to the melon.
 

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Full Trucker said:
Why would an intermediate rider be riding the Cougar trail, which is (pretty clearly if I am not mistaken) marked as expert? Shouldn't ALL riders be checking ALL stunts, jumps, drops, and gaps before hitting them and assessing for themselves if they possess the necessary skill to clear them safely? Since when is it a trail crew's responsibility to save us all from our own lack of common sense?

I'm just asking, that's all...
Intermediate and Expert are all relative terms. Based on the couple times I've ridden with him I'd rank Shawn's jumping ability above a good percentage of the riders on Drifter and Cougar. This particular jump is just a little wonky, especially compared to the beautifully designed jumps on the rest of the run.
 

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my .02

I believe this is the gap KK is speaking of.

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photo credit Nickle

Darwin at work I guess. I had hit everything else on the mountain clean, sooo I decided at the last minute to charge this one. Definitely needed more speed! The picture was taken just before I splatted.
 

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If that's the same jump from last year (pic'd above), then yes, you want a crap load of speed to hit it. There's no real danger of going too fast, and that goes for pretty much every jump at SV. That's a good thing... :D
 

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nomad rdr said:
I believe this is the gap KK is speaking of.

View attachment 371338 photo credit Nickle

Darwin at work I guess. I had hit everything else on the mountain clean, sooo I decided at the last minute to charge this one. Definitely needed more speed! The picture was taken just before I splatted.
Maybe I'm mistaken, I thought he was talking about the big double beneath the lift. The one that took you out (above) put the hurt on DWF last season - he shorted it on his hardtail.
 

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For that jump pictured I have to agree with Klaus, why can't it just be like 2 with a huge landing option, I did buck myself on it once last year, and it looks bigger this year.
 

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Ithnu said:
For that jump pictured I have to agree with Klaus, why can't it just be like 2 with a huge landing option, I did buck myself on it once last year, and it looks bigger this year.
I hit that jump every time last year and it was a pretty flat landing... nothing that would really buck you off or mess you up, you could ride it out... this year the take off is smaller and the landing is longer with a hump for a tranny at the end... not the best jump they have for sure... needs some sculpting...
 

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Godzilla said:
Maybe I'm mistaken, I thought he was talking about the big double beneath the lift. The one that took you out (above) put the hurt on DWF last season - he shorted it on his hardtail.
... and thanks for thinking of me as an American. All my friends in Europe say the same. So maybe I am on a good trajectory ... :p
 

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Godzilla said:
Maybe I'm mistaken, I thought he was talking about the big double beneath the lift. The one that took you out (above) put the hurt on DWF last season - he shorted it on his hardtail.
Yeah, that's the one. Looks totally doable from the trail, even for me on the HT, it's doesn't show its true colors until you short it that you notice how bad the consequences are. Or it could be that I just suck at jumping which is also true.
 
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