Higbee,Higbee said:I think miSSionary uses them anyone else? Any reviews? I am using the Mary bar right now but these look interesting. They seem like they would offer lots of hand postitions and they are a lot cheaper than the Jones Bars.
I have not had to change my neck or anythiing using Mary's or James' bars. He says they have 30 degrees of sweep though putting them beside Mary's they seem the same.Higbee said:Thanks for the info. Any difference in set up compared to the Mary's, other than the lack of rise? Longer stem maybe? It seems like there is a bit of forward sweep from the pictures I have seen.
I believe they are 28" at the widest point, I'll have to measure to double check tonight (bike's at home, I'm at work). They are almost dead-on length and sweep of the Mary bars, if you tried them you would realize their potential over Mary and Jones bars, I love them all but the cruiser sweeps (80 degree back bend) are where I do all my climbing now and the bars make it feel as if I have...gasp...multiple gears!! :thumbsup:Nater said:How wide are those bars at the widest point?
I am not sure but good question. I pose this; If you had some bar ends to try then turn them around so they face backwards. I never thought of this until I got my bars but for me it is like the leverage you'd get standing between two beams. If you tried to pull and climb with a bar in front of you it would not be as easy as climbing between two rails (like stair railing). I have been riding risers for endurance stuff for two years, I like this option as with the others I could hardly get other hand position. I used risers because of my hands going numb. I haven't gone numb with Mary bars or these enduros, but the enduros have like a million hand positions. Also, if you look you can put your hands inside the brake levers for hauling down smooth stuff. Try them...they are the new jones bars, lol!! :thumbsup: Seriously though, I am using this style for as long as I can, good stuff.jja said:So what's the feel of a backward sweep vs. a forward extension like bar-ends or the old Scott bars? I got along with Scott AT-4s for a long time, but the new bike went with flat bars and cheap bar-ends. The bar-ends disintegrated after 1 ride and now I'm adapting to straight bars. I haven't decided what to do next.
Well a little. When you are doing switchbacks I was taking my bar and turning it to rest behind my knee cap and sortta falling into the turn (this sounds much worse than it is). After riding for a while (they are strange in that aspect at first) I realized I could turn the bars to whatever side after I extended my leg a little straighter on the side I was turning into. Truth be told I still do tight switchbacks by putting the bar behind my knee...not the safest but truly does work. The designer, Jason (James is the builder), says his ends touch the frame on switchbacks and then the bike kinda "falls" into the turn like I am stating mine does when I put it behind the knee. You raised a great question I forgot to cover but really the first 20 miles or so are kind of strange on tighter stuff but after that you won't realize you have that much bar around you. On the downhills if you grab the bar normal by the levers you will find that the rest of the arm to the elbow will rest on the bar making a VERY comfortable position. Hope that helps!!calzonical said:miSSionary - do you notice any difficulty maneuvering the wider bar & wrap-around through switchbacks?
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