[scottzg]

changed to some aztec pads after the stock hayes pads wore out after only 300 miles(is this typical?) these pads overheat- blacken the rotor and don't stop so good after a little use. Should i just throw these pads on the back and just get oem hayes pads for the front in the future, or is my 225lb lardass just more man than they can handle? Maybe i should opt for a bigger front rotor? I'd love some wisdom, internet.

 

[XSL_WiLL]

Don't brake like a soccer mom would be my first suggestion. Don't just wail on the brakes.

If you're experiencing fade, a bleed may help. All my brakes are bled with DOT 5.1. After a while, brake fluid gets old and nasty, and absorbs moisture from the atmosphere. And thus the boiling point lowers.

I have no experience with Aztec pads. Pad wear is dependent on what type of terrain, what sort of weather, and how the rider brakes.

 

[scottzg]

Don't brake like a soccer mom would be my first suggestion. Don't just wail on the brakes.

If you're experiencing fade, a bleed may help. All my brakes are bled with DOT 5.1. After a while, brake fluid gets old and nasty, and absorbs moisture from the atmosphere. And thus the boiling point lowers.

so... i should ride slower? :skep:

change pads and fade appears, so i should check my brake fluid? :skep:

so, is 300 miles a normal lifespan for front pads, and would it make sense to change to a larger rotor?

tia!

 

[XSL_WiLL]

so... i should ride slower? :skep:

change pads and fade appears, so i should check my brake fluid? :skep:

so, is 300 miles a normal lifespan for front pads, and would it make sense to change to a larger rotor?

tia!

No, you should brake better and more effectively.

Air in the system or old DOT fluid can really hinder the performance of the brakes. And IMO, it is worth checking.

As I said, lifespan of the pads is dependent on all sorts of things.

If you feel as if the smaller rotors simply cannot dissipate the heat fast enough, then yes, a larger rotor would help. You are a bigger guy too.

 

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Try this...

Try our Sintered metallic pads, they're the ones with the copper colored backing plate, sounds like you might have had our semi metallic pad with the black backing plate. Make sure to bed them in properly. If your fork can handle a 7" rotor (check with fork mfg.) that will also help (15%) more power.

FYI, We don't recommend the use of DOT 5.1 fluid in our brakes.

Randy

 

[VT no 1 2 or 3]

Try our Sintered metallic pads, they're the ones with the copper colored backing plate, sounds like you might have had our semi metallic pad with the black backing plate...

Second the sintered metallic pads. A set sintered metallics, while they maybe noisier, will last 2 years for me and the semi-metallics will last 4 - 6 months.

 

[Psycho Mike]

And as another "lardazz" (235-240lb) I'll agree with the larger rotor route....I have 9's and was having issues with them fading out on moderate descents. A larger rotor helped a lot.

 

[XSL_WiLL]

Try our Sintered metallic pads, they're the ones with the copper colored backing plate, sounds like you might have had our semi metallic pad with the black backing plate. Make sure to bed them in properly. If your fork can handle a 7" rotor (check with fork mfg.) that will also help (15%) more power.

FYI, We don't recommend the use of DOT 5.1 fluid in our brakes.

Randy

Not arguing with you, but most DOT 5.1s are compatible with DOT 3 and 4 systems, and can be mixed with either fluid.

 

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Mix them all you want...

We just don't recommend you put it in our brakes.

R

 

[XSL_WiLL]

We just don't recommend you put it in our brakes.

R

I understand that, just wanted to clarify.

 

[scottzg]

Try our Sintered metallic pads, they're the ones with the copper colored backing plate, sounds like you might have had our semi metallic pad with the black backing plate. Make sure to bed them in properly. If your fork can handle a 7" rotor (check with fork mfg.) that will also help (15%) more power.

Randy

so there is a 'hotter' pad available- perfect! really, i didn't have a problem with the original pads, just looking at options.

thanks a lot!

 

[fsrxc]

so there is a 'hotter' pad available- perfect! really, i didn't have a problem with the original pads, just looking at options.

thanks a lot!

There is a +2 option too, EBC reds.
I have the Hayes sintered pads, and swapped in a set of EBC Reds (DH race oriented) in the front for lift-access last year, and they do have a bit more grip. The description says they actually heat up less than metallic pads too, and I didn't notice any fade during runs. I expect them to wear quicker though.

 

[XSL_WiLL]

There is a +2 option too, EBC reds.
I have the Hayes sintered pads, and swapped in a set of EBC Reds (DH race oriented) in the front for lift-access last year, and they do have a bit more grip. The description says they actually heat up less than metallic pads too, and I didn't notice any fade during runs. I expect them to wear quicker though.

EBC Reds are like bubble gum on hot asphalt.

I ran Kool-Stops with lasercut aluminum rotors for a while. Worked pretty well.

Galfer pads are excellent as well.

 

[fsrxc]

EBC Reds are like bubble gum on hot asphalt.

I ran Kool-Stops with lasercut aluminum rotors for a while. Worked pretty well.

Galfer pads are excellent as well.

Are you saying you like or don't like the Reds? They seem fine to me but I'm light and not a DH racer.

I've found the Koolstops good too, seem as good as the Hayes sintered pads (and they're about half the price round here anyway).

 

[XSL_WiLL]

Are you saying you like or don't like the Reds? They seem fine to me but I'm light and not a DH racer.

I've found the Koolstops good too, seem as good as the Hayes sintered pads (and they're about half the price round here anyway).

They're nice, very grabby.

 

[adamantane]

yeah dog, if your 230 pounds then a 160 mil rotor is just too small...you need 8 inch rotors front and back (you'll have to get the larger mounting brackets too)...i've used aztec pads before, they work just as good as any other brand