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My 5 yo camera finally died. Any recommendation for a P&S camera that also does 720p recording without breaking the bank (around $200)?
 

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Same boat. I just bought this one.

Slightly more than I wanted to spend...do some searching and you can find it online for ~$250. Generally Sony cameras don't receive the highest reviews, however this one has a really nifty panorama feature. It's really nice, doesn't require the "stitching" of other models. The other nice feature is the fast shutter speed. This thing blows everything else away at 10 shots per second. Since I want to use this primarily for my on bike camera, I thought these two features were the most important.

I only took delivery yesterday, but did take it on my ride. It powers on incredibly fast (nice for the riding), the burst mode of 10 shots per second really captures well cool techy spots well, and the panorama is WAY cool.
 

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ebeer said:
Same boat. I just bought this one.
Would you mind posting some mtb photos you've taken with this camera? I'm getting ready to retire my Sony Cybershot DSC-T17, which has been a champ, but it kinda sucks in low light, especially with a bike moving by. See attached photo... blurry and spotty (I think I used a flash in the shot). Thanks!
 

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Decide what's really important to you, low light, photo quality, zoom, wide, burst shooting, price.

i bought a canon s90. quality is excellent as well as low light, burst is horrible. it does do full manual mode, which is nice. the s95 has some improvements.
 

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I also debated between a camera like the Sony with burst and one with better low light/ all around photo ratings like the Canon SD1400. Size was also important to me as I know if it's too big I won't take it with me.

I went with the SD1400. Although it is small and takes great shots, it is slow to refresh for your second shot, and this can cause missed shots. I don't know what the answer would have been because there's not really one that can do it all I don't think: Size, Speed photo quality in most conditions, Hi Definition video, etc.
 

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Another thing to keep in mind is battery type. I prefer to buy P&S that run off AA. They may not last as long, but you'll never miss a shot on vacation if you forget the charger. I think AA powered cameras are becoming more difficult to find though, and have a smaller selection of choices.
 

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Another thing to keep in mind is battery type. I prefer to buy P&S that run off AA. They may not last as long, but you'll never miss a shot on vacation if you forget the charger. I think AA powered cameras are becoming more difficult to find though, and have a smaller selection of choices.
*Battery leaks happen and suck. The Canon SD battery charger and everything fits nicely in a small package, heck I throw the stuff into my Callaway Caddy Pouch all the time. :thumbsup:

Throw a cheapy sweatband over the camera and you never have to worry about scratching the screen during transport. :D
 

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I love our Canon G11 - tons of settings and takes great video, but I've found the regular Auto settings to be great for almost any conditions. It's a little bulky, but it's worth it.
 

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Canon SX-210 will run you closer to $300, but has great 720p video and full manual control if that means anything to you. It's a little bigger than the sd880 that was left on a bar stool in Tahoe, but extremely happy with it, and always found the sd880 just a little lacking.

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Check out the Panasonic Lumix line. I got mine at Costco for really cheap, and it's made with metal. Feels like a real camera. :thumbsup:

Dropped it 2x yesterday on the rocks and it didn't faze it. :thumbsup:
 

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My two year old smashed our last camera on concrete so this thread is timely.

Do any of these cameras take a picture quickly when you push the button? We kept wanting to take a pic of a kid and we'd push the "take a picture" button and then delay delay delay while the kid is turning away, then the camera finally takes the picture and it's too late.
 

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Plim said:
My two year old smashed our last camera on concrete so this thread is timely.

Do any of these cameras take a picture quickly when you push the button? We kept wanting to take a pic of a kid and we'd push the "take a picture" button and then delay delay delay while the kid is turning away, then the camera finally takes the picture and it's too late.
2 things--

1. Most of the cameras have a burst mode. The casio's is 40pic per minute so that really helps with poor timing :)
2. As a owner with very high end HD cameras costing as much as a 911 and Digital camera easily costing as much as any high end carbon bike - NONE of them transport easily -- thus, they are trumped by almost any pocket camera.. "F8 and being there" has made it into many magazines.. I would caution against pushing the envelope and choosing a camera with x because its better, if the size increases to much to slip in your pocket easily.. sure if you want fast glass and manual control, go big. But the stuff in the middle isn't always worth the trade off in size. If it is in your pocket you'll use it.
 

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Plim said:
My two year old smashed our last camera on concrete so this thread is timely.

Do any of these cameras take a picture quickly when you push the button? We kept wanting to take a pic of a kid and we'd push the "take a picture" button and then delay delay delay while the kid is turning away, then the camera finally takes the picture and it's too late.
Yes, shutter lag is a big thing. This thread got me all confused though. Anyway, time to do some research on all the recommendations.
 

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Yes, shutter lag is a big thing. This thread got me all confused though. Anyway, time to do some research on all the recommendations.
I've got the Sony WS 200, the 90 and the Cannon G11.

These are totally different camera's. The 200 is a tiny little thing the size of a deck of cards.

It's got 12 megapixels and full manual mode.

If you want to shoot mountain biking under trees, you NEED full manual mode. But you also have to learn how to use it. It's fun - it'll give you a hobby within a hobby.

The little camera's are lacking in a couple area's, though.

They are little - this means the sensor that captures light is proportionally smaller than on larger camera's - like my Cannon G11.

I bought the Cannon last year after feeling like I had reached the limits of the Sony's. I just wasn't getting the richness and clarity I was looking for.

The Cannon is much larger, about 2 decks of cards. It's heavy, too.

But it can still be strapped to your camelbak and ridden around with, for quick snapshots.

The camera has more adjustments than I know what to do with - and if you're really going to get into photography, this is probably the best you can get for a portable camera that you can ride with.

The function Plim is looking for is available on the Cannon - I don't remember what it's called - but you can set the camera up to shoot super quick. You may experience a loss in photo quality - I really can't say as I've never used the function.

Zorg - if you want to compare any of these let me know - I still need to come by your office to pick up my stuff something this week.
 

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Plim said:
My two year old smashed our last camera on concrete so this thread is timely.

Do any of these cameras take a picture quickly when you push the button? We kept wanting to take a pic of a kid and we'd push the "take a picture" button and then delay delay delay while the kid is turning away, then the camera finally takes the picture and it's too late.
The Cannon G11 has a specific funciton for this that reduces lag time - you just pick the camera up, turn it on and shoot. No fuss - no focusing, etc.

If you're going to use the camera this way - you would want to leave this function on all the time.

I can't speak for the results as I've never used this function.
 

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I just got a camera and did a lot of research before hand. Don't remember why this one made it to the top of the list but I have been super happy with it. (Canon PowerShot SD 4000 IS Elph) Made this video with it. It takes HD vid that you have to convert but the pics are totally crisp (and fast to take) and the video function rocks (edit on the fly).

http://www.pinkbike.com/v/154364/l/
 

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I'm never happy with my camera so I won't recommend one. (OK, it's mostly photographer issues.) Also, at places with low light and fast motion (like Demo) only the best SLR cameras with good photographers can get a picture that's not all blur.

Plim said:
Do any of these cameras take a picture quickly when you push the button? We kept wanting to take a pic of a kid and we'd push the "take a picture" button and then delay delay delay while the kid is turning away, then the camera finally takes the picture and it's too late.
Most of the camera delay is spent on focusing. Most all cameras today have a two-stage button. Push part way down and the focus is set and locked, indicated on the screen in some way. Hold with the button-partially-down fixed focus until the kid is in the right position. Then the rest of the way for actually taking the picture. Time is greatly reduced to a fraction of a second. Maybe you are already doing this?

If you move the camera to another spot, you should release and pre-focus again. Also, this pre-focus technique doesn't really work for MTB where bikes are coming at you, as there's no place to pre-focus. But it's great for kids in one location but squirming.

This is the only way I ever got pictures of my fast moving rug rats, like the time one walked on water.
 

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