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Bummer that mirror has such a short lifespan...

Can you make one for repairing a Nikon D70 that was immersed in salt water?
 

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Damn!! I've got a Rebel XT, but as much as I love wrenching on the bikes, I sure don't want to tear into the camera...especially after seeing all it's guts hanging out like that! :eek: Hopefully I won't have a need to...

I appreciate your efforts though!
 

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Wow, that just doesn't sound like a lot of fun, seems about like taking apart some high end electronic paintball guns, only a lot more involved.:D Kudos man, gotta lot of respect for some one willing to dig into something like that.

While we're on the topic of digi cams, any one out there with experience using the Digi Reble XT?? 8 mp, and comes with a half ass lens. Want to get into the digi SLR thing, but don't want to dump the price of a 20 or 30D. My 35mm are starting to get old and I'm starting to look really seriously. Any input would be cool.

happy trails...

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Rebel is a kliler digi-cam

squish said:
While we're on the topic of digi cams, any one out there with experience using the Digi Reble XT?? 8 mp, and comes with a half ass lens. Want to get into the digi SLR thing, but don't want to dump the price of a 20 or 30D. My 35mm are starting to get old and I'm starting to look really seriously. Any input would be cool.

happy trails...

squish
Yo Squish, I have a Rebel XT/350d - depending on where you live. The kit lens is o-k, but nothing great. I bought the body and paired it with a wide angle 17-40mm f4 "L" series lens. The "L" lenses are their pro grade lenses - all metal construction, not that cheapo plastic stuff like the kit lens, better glass, faster/quieter focusing, larger aperatures at a given focal length and so on. I also have the 70-200mm f4. Its an incredible camera.

Like all pro-sumer cams you have to do a little digging to change some of the settings. On cams like the 20 and 30d, stuff like the ISO is accessible with a button on the cam, on the Rebel its in the menu so you can't change it on the fly. You have to hit the menu button, scroll down to ISO and then change it. When shooting indoors with varied lighting sometimes you need to be able to just skip from 400 to 1600 pretty quickly, which you can't do on the Rebel. So I guess it depends on how much control you want.

There are some all-in-one setups like the new 10mp Sony that offer incredible focal lengths, incredible imaging and such, you just don't have the option of changing lenses like a traditional SLR, check them out. If you're only planning on running a basic lens and not doing pro-type work, they'll more than do the trick.

The Sony/Zeiss lens is so awesome you'd pay more than the price of that cam just for the equilavent lens on a Canon or a Nikon, so that's something to consider. And it has all the manual controls of a traditional SLR. I came *this* close to buying the Sony. The placement of the LCD is the only thing that kept me from buying it. As a bonus they have a wide and tele convertor that threads onto the end of their lens.

The biggest advantage of the DSLR is the variety of lenses, the fact that the viewfinder shows the entire image and the ability to manually change the depth of field. Cams like the Sony come pretty close, and will do the trick for most. I wanted the ability to go wider and longer than the Sony could so I opted for the Rebel. The wide angle is an incredible lens too.

But the zoom is only so-so IMHO. For me, I need something faster like the f2.8 to shoot indoors. I am debating on selling it to get the f2.8 with image stabilization, but the downside is the 2.8 IS lens is 3x the price and right now I'm having a tough time convincing myself that I really need a $1300 camera lens. But to go 200mm at f2.8 and not need a tripod indoors has me itching to pull the trigger. Overall I'm very happy with the Rebel though.

If only Sony put that damn LCD in the "normal" place I might be able to save a lot of hassle...
 

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Chris,

Thanks for all the input. I've looked at some of the all in one stuff, and currently have a Canon "point and shoot" digi, but after using SLR for a few years I hate it! I doesn't do anything I like. And I can definatley like a full metal lens over the plastic stuff, and quality glass is definatley worth paying for.

I'd love to have the faster access to the controls and stuff for switching between indoors and outdoors. That may just be the deciding factor, have to head over to a camera shop and check a few out.

Thanks again for the input much appreciated.

happy trails...

squish
 

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more control means more $$$

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I'd love to have the faster access to the controls and stuff for switching between indoors and outdoors. That may just be the deciding factor, have to head over to a camera shop and check a few out.
If you're looking Canon, then you have to step up to the 20/30d to get the ISO control as a dedicated button. Personally, the extra few hundred isn't worth it when comparing the 20d and the Rebel because that's the only significant difference - and I put that into another lens. The real jump is to the 30d - which is a true pro level cam with a bigger LCD and more robust construction. But again its a few hundred more than the 20d, which is another lens. I threw more cash at the optics since the image sensor is identical in all three.

I did not consider Nilkon - their lenses at comparable focal lengths and aperatures are way too expensive IMHO - for no higher level quality of sharpness. Plus I find Nikon's menu system very user un-friendly. On the Rebel I can change the ISO pretty quickly for a menu driven item, on the Nikons is more complex - slower. Reviewing images on the Nikons is cumbersome too. But that's my preference. I think Canon's imaging is superior anyway.

The new Panasonic looks awesome, but I haven't seen a price on it yet. Then there's the lens factor, there are tons for the Canon. Same goes for any of the other DSLR's, limited lens selection - making Canon and Nikon the only two real players in the game.
 

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I've got an old Rebel G that I have used the crap out of, it's been on more rides than I know what to do with. I never did get any lenses for it, I wasn't that interested in photography at that point, but then I started working for a photo lab and picked up an old Pentax from one of the ladies there for like $220, had a wide angle lense, standard 35-70 zoom, and a Tamron 220mm zoom w/ a 2x converter (you can really reach out and touch things if you have good light:D )

But I don't like the Pentax nearly as well as the Canon, doesn't have as good a feel and the controls aren't very well laid out. It doesn't help that it's ancient though, has auto advance and ISO settings, also does the metering thing, but focus is manual ( I really don't mind that I think it helps you get a little more involved in the photo). But it does take a really nice picture.

I agree with the XT and the 20D both sitting at 8mp with the same image sensor it's hard to justify the Extra coinage, but I like the features of the 30D a lot too. The thing I'm really diggin about the 20 and 30D is the magnesium body panels and steal framing. Nice rugged construction, for a sport that tends to be hell on stuff like cameras. How my Rebel has servived the number of crashes it's been through is beyond me, but it did finally die, metering doesn't work and the autofocus is toast, and there's a crack in the body at the base of the lens. 6 years of riding with it ain't bad though.

Time to start saving some pennies.

happy trails...

squish
 

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lidarman said:
Can you make one for repairing a Nikon D70 that was immersed in salt water?
Sure, it'll look something like this:



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lidarman said:
Can you make one for repairing a Nikon D70 that was immersed in salt water?
DOH!!

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