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I was about to order a new Judge when the geometry of the new Perp caught my eye, and I ordered it instead........but darn I hate the wait (3 months...Argh). Its a tad lighter than a Judge with a shorter wheelbase...



Thoughts? Anyone ride one?
 

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Nice! You are ganna be stoked when it get built. I bought a Judge and the pictures dont do justice. Its beefy inperson, real beefy. I would assume the Perp is the same way. You will be happy, trust me.
 

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8664 said:
can i built a boxxer in the perp2? or is this frame only for single crown forks?? is the perp2 made in usa by cannondale or is it a asia product??
I'm pretty sure it's made in the US like other alloy Cannondales but it doesn't seem to have the traditional Handmade in the US decals...
Cannondale had some demo Perps with Fox 40 at the introduction of the bike so I guess it can handle a Boxxer...
 

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yes a v10. but the tracks in switzerland and for all day DHbiking i want change to the perp2 large. i transver 90% off my components espezial the boxxer wc :))
the v10 frame i sale in switzerland for $1600
 

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ok, i hafe download the manual from the prep, fork length inkl. (hadset and cup) axel to head tube 61mm the boxxer is 58.5mm. definitiv the perp adapt dualcrown forks!!
 

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Hi 8664, are you sure about the large because i have tryed the perp medium and the cockpit is bigger than the judge. but i like smaller bikes! The perp whit the boxx wc its awesome!
 

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Hi 8664, are you sure about the large because i have tryed the perp medium and the cockpit is bigger than the judge. but i like smaller bikes! The perp whit the boxx wc its awesome!
Im getting the Perp because its smaller than the Judge (according to the specs anyway). Specifically in wheelbase (and because its 1,200.00 less cost as a frameset than the Judge:D . And I think it weighs 5lbs less built up. From the stats anyway (comparing size (L) to size (L)), it appears to be only ".2" longer cockpit? Perhaps the head tube angle stretches you out a tad more?

TT horizontal Judge 24.2 Perp 24.2
TT actual Judge 22.1 Perp 22.3
Head tube angle Judge 64 Perp 66
Whellbase Judge 46.6 Perp 46.2

8664 said:
can i built a boxxer in the perp2? or is this frame only for single crown forks?? is the perp2 made in usa by cannondale or is it a asia product??
While I dont know about your Boxxer, It appears my Fox 40 will work just fine:D

 

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8664 said:
i hafe tried a large perp today it is very short 56cm TTA. but ok. for me!
Hehehe thats not mine, its a pick from the Cdale Whistler demo. When you say the one you tried was short, what do you mean? I'm 6'2" and Im ordering a Large (sight unseen) because it appears a tad smaller than a Judge.......please explain your test ride:thumbsup:

TT horizontal Judge 24.2 Perp 24.2
TT actual Judge 22.1 Perp 22.3
Head tube angle Judge 64 Perp 66
Whellbase Judge 46.6 Perp 46.2
 

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i am 5.85" and the large perp is perfect bether than my judge Medium i think the Large is ok. for you but if you like a rooming toptube you cann go with the Xl perp on the USA Site
 
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