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One Up Dropper with Wolf Tooth Remote

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I just replaced my Bike Yoke Divine with a OneUp dropper (new 2.1 version). I was using the standard Wolf Tooth remote and felt the lever feel to be good. No complaints. I installed the OneUp using the sawm Wolf Tooth remote and immediately noticed the lever to feel significantly more firm. I spent quite a while fiddling with the dropper assuming a kink or sharp bend in the cable/housing or maybe the dropper was positioned too deep in the seat tube. I pretty sure all is good there. The cable and housing are new and good stuff - Shimano SP41 and Optislick. I did some reading and found that the OneUp has a stiffer "spring" so the lever feel will be firmer. Also noticed that Wolf Tooth has a compatibility chart on the site and make recommendations Standard Remote vs. Light Action Remote. Standard is suggested for Bike Yoke, Light Action for OneUp. So I suppose moving the Light Action remote will improve things.

Looking for feedback and suggestions on this. Wolf tooth notes 30-40% less "push force with the Light Action remote. Curious on how things feels in real life. Significant?
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It seems there are a consistent fraction of people who end up with a heavy trigger feel on a One-up. Whether that's the post or routing it's hard to say on the other side of the internet. It does seem a fair amount of them with I think Santa Cruz's came to the conclusion it was a confluence of Santa Cruz's routing and the actuator. I had a buddy who installed one and had a really heavy trigger feel. It was for sure his routing and I helped him sort it out.

Beyond routing here's what I do with mine. Make sure the actuator has no burrs and is moving freely. I drop a drop of tenacious oil on the actual and down the actuating tube. Make sure the actuator is oriented in the most free-flowing orientation when inserted into your bike. Make sure the collar is well lubed, this can definitely have interplay with the feeling at the trigger.

I'm on my third bike with second or third One-up dropper and they've all performed consistently. Coming from a revive they're not as light action or as "smooth". However, I have personally found this advantageous as the One-up action makes nailing the micro adjustments much easier in my experience. No over or under shooting that 1-2 cm adjustment I was going for, just much more intuitive.

Speaking to the light action lever itself, while it might be 30 or 40% more leverage, trigger feel to me is maybe 10 or 15% easier on initial actuation. But noticeable, yes.

*I reckon if the brass keys were dry it would give a heavy lever feel as well. I think there was a guy not too long back where this was the case for him. On all my One-up posts I've never done anything but unscrew the top collar and lube it every 4 weeks of riding or so.
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The light action lever is longer but it requires more travel and because of that I prefer the shorter lever.
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I prefer the light action for that reason over any perceived feel. It lengthens the window the actuator is engaged which I feel makes metering the micro adjustments even easier and more intuitive. I'm big ham fisted bloke with big hands though.

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I installed a Oneup dropper post on my Trek after the original stopped working. I used the bike's Bontrager lever and found the Oneup required very high pressure to operate. I checked with Oneup (excellent customer service) and they provided a new actuator. This didn't fix the problem so I bought a long action Shimano lever. The pressure required with this lever was much lower and almost reasonable, but still high. After about 9 months I installed a Oneup lever and when I first tried it I thought I'd broken the cable the pressure was so low.

It's been great for a couple of weeks now.

Tim
I just replaced my Bike Yoke Divine with a OneUp dropper (new 2.1 version). I was using the standard Wolf Tooth remote and felt the lever feel to be good. No complaints. I installed the OneUp using the sawm Wolf Tooth remote and immediately noticed the lever to feel significantly more firm. I spent quite a while fiddling with the dropper assuming a kink or sharp bend in the cable/housing or maybe the dropper was positioned too deep in the seat tube. I pretty sure all is good there. The cable and housing are new and good stuff - Shimano SP41 and Optislick. I did some reading and found that the OneUp has a stiffer "spring" so the lever feel will be firmer. Also noticed that Wolf Tooth has a compatibility chart on the site and make recommendations Standard Remote vs. Light Action Remote. Standard is suggested for Bike Yoke, Light Action for OneUp. So I suppose moving the Light Action remote will improve things.

Looking for feedback and suggestions on this. Wolf tooth notes 30-40% less "push force with the Light Action remote. Curious on how things feels in real life. Significant?
I have the One Up and it feels much better with the light action lever. Using the regular lever it is a heavy push/throw. I think you cane get just the lever blade if there are not stock issues.
Can confirm with everyone else here. Use the light action. Had both and coming from hydraulic reverb which when working was obviously silky smooth and light action so going to oneup and regular was way too heavy and notchy feeling. Light action with jag wire pro dropper cable and housing kit and it’s been great.
I've got a couple OneUp droppers as well as a BikeYoke.
All have OneUp levers.
I owned (and gave away) my Wolftooth Light Action lever -- I found it non-ergonomic.
For one thing, it's too long.
But you need that length in order for it to work well with the OneUp dropper.
That's too bad. Rules out the use of the Wolftooth LA lever for me.
Another thing: Wolftooth's paddle is simply not as comfortable as other dropper levers I've tried (KS, BikeYoke, OneUp.)
The OneUp lever is, IMO, ideal.
The amount of throw, the leverage ratio, the paddle shape, the ergonomics -- everything.
Best yet is the position of the OneUp paddle under the bar.
My Wolftooth LA stuck out in front of the bar (below but in front.)
This, combined with the long throw, required my thumb to reach too far plus made pushing the lever comparatively uncomfortable.
The OneUp lever sits more under the bar; my thumb finds it in exactly the right place.
And the throw isn't so long. Plus the throw is comparatively easy.
It's not surprising to me that OneUp's dropper works best with OneUp's lever.
So does my BikeYoke dropper.
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Thanks for the comments. I went out and rode today with the standard Wolf Tooth Lever. It actually wasn't terrible and on the trail it felt much better than on the stand. I was firm but not sticky and it didn't have that firm "break thru" resistance at the front end of the throw. I'll still pick up a light action remote in time but it's not an emergency. Maybe Wolf Tooth LA, OneUp, maybe Shimano as I run XT8100). Only one ride but I think this dropper compares well to the Bike Yoke I was running. At over $100 less than the Revive it's almost enough for a OneUp Carbon handlebar.

@WHALENARD- 100% on the micro adjustments of the OneUp vs Bike Yoke. You are absolutely right. Something I think I will appreciate. Thanks for the detailed response!
I've got a couple OneUp droppers as well as a BikeYoke.
All have OneUp levers.
I owned (and gave away) my Wolftooth Light Action lever -- I found it non-ergonomic.
For one thing, it's too long.
But you need that length in order for it to work well with the OneUp dropper.
That's too bad. Rules out the use of the Wolftooth LA lever for me.
Another thing: Wolftooth's paddle is simply not as comfortable as other dropper levers I've tried (KS, BikeYoke, OneUp.)
The OneUp lever is, IMO, ideal.
The amount of throw, the leverage ratio, the paddle shape, the ergonomics -- everything.
Best yet is the position of the OneUp paddle under the bar.
My Wolftooth LA stuck out in front of the bar (below but in front.)
This, combined with the long throw, required my thumb to reach too far plus made pushing the lever comparatively uncomfortable.
The OneUp lever sits more under the bar; my thumb finds it in exactly the right place.
And the throw isn't so long. Plus the throw is comparatively easy.
It's not surprising to me that OneUp's dropper works best with OneUp's lever.
So does my BikeYoke dropper.
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Thanks for the reply. Suggestion on clamp mount versus I-spec (or Sram)? I use Shimano XT 8100 shifters. I have read that the clamp style allows more/better adjustment and ergonomics than I-Spec.
Thanks for the reply. Suggestion on clamp mount versus I-spec (or Sram)? I use Shimano XT 8100 shifters. I have read that the clamp style allows more/better adjustment and ergonomics than I-Spec.
All my controls employ discrete clamps so unfortunately I'm unable to comment on the I-Spec versions.
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I had a LA on my One Up dropper for about a year. I found it agreeable, though it did/does have a slight 'dead' feeling at the beginning of the stroke. Compared to the One Up lever (which I switched to), I prefer the feeling for the reasons @Sparticus mentioned, even if it is slightly harder to push.

I've had a chance to use the "good" version of the Bontrager lever (very easy to push, but also very mushy/indefinite feel, since the lever is so long), and recently worked on something with the Shimano lever; I had been interested enough to try one, but they were not available pretty much since they came out. IMO, in their understated way, Shimano knocked it out of the park with their first in-house lever--similar ergonomics to the One Up, but with one exceptional difference: they put a return spring in the lever that makes as much of a difference in feel as it did when brake levers first got return springs.
I had a LA on my One Up dropper for about a year. I found it agreeable, though it did/does have a slight 'dead' feeling at the beginning of the stroke. Compared to the One Up lever (which I switched to), I prefer the feeling for the reasons @Sparticus mentioned, even if it is slightly harder to push.

I've had a chance to use the "good" version of the Bontrager lever (very easy to push, but also very mushy/indefinite feel, since the lever is so long), and recently worked on something with the Shimano lever; I had been interested enough to try one, but they were not available pretty much since they came out. IMO, in their understated way, Shimano knocked it out of the park with their first in-house lever--similar ergonomics to the One Up, but with one exceptional difference: they put a return spring in the lever that makes as much of a difference in feel as it did when brake levers first got return springs.
Tough to find those Shimano remotes. I can’t find them online.
Tough to find those Shimano remotes. I can’t find them online.
Ha! Until now I didn't even know they existed.
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Ha! Until now I didn't even know they existed.
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yup. MT-800. considered XTR level. I-Spec only. No clamp version offered.

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To each their own I guess, I actually didn’t get along with the oneup lever as it hit my thumb since it’s at a straighter line for the given length (under the bar vs angled up). Nothing to do with quality as it was great there but the wolf tooth LA puts the lever in almost the same spot as the reverb and x01 shifter lever so I guess that’s just what I’m used to. With so many options your bound to find a match you like, the post are awesome and have been solidly reliable and simple.
i have the wt la lever and one up post on an xs remedy frame and a one up post and standard one up lever on a large fuel ex frame. both feel pretty much identical. the xs remedy was a pain as it has tight bends and was unuseable with the bontrager system.
I've ran the Wolftooth Light Action lever for years on other bikes with other posts, and briefly on both of my current bikes with OneUp droppers, but I've since switched both over to the OneUp lever. As Sparticus mentioned, I also just prefer the ergonomics of it. It sits underneath the bar more, so that my thumb barely has to move to hit it, rather than having to swing it below and around the lever. I personally also like to have my cable tension tight enough just before the post actuates. The lever throw is so short, it's almost just like hitting a button, rather than pushing a lever.
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I have tried LA and normal with a oneup dropper and normal just didn't feel very good. LA felt smooth and easy like it should.
If someone wants to swap their standard wolftooth lever for the longer LA lever let me know.
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