I am looking at replacing the two bikes I have with one. I am looking at the Vassago Jabberwocky and the Origin-8 Scout. They both weigh about 5lbs, and they both have sliding dropouts. That is pretty much where the similarities end. The Vassago has 17.9 inch Chainstay's, and the Origin-8 claims 16.75 inch. This bike will be run rigid for the most part. The Vassago would use the ODIS fork, and the Origin-8 would use the Blade fork. The Vassago has clearance for a 2.3" tire, the Origin-8 a large 2.1". The Vassago's H/A is 71 degrees, and the Origin-8 is 72 degrees. The Origin-8 has more stand over. I will be using this build as an AM bike. I will be doing 3' drops, jumps, log rides, etc. The wheel build will be Hope ll/Halo Freedom to put it in perspective. The Jabberwocky might also use a Fox fork on occasion. I am looking for first hand experiences of riding these bikes hard, and rough. I need to know which of these bikes will be more enjoyable, and take more abuse.