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I am on the fence over a 575 or motolite. What would cover the most trails in northern arizona the best?
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I have never ridden the Motolite but own a 575. I can vouch for the 575, its a great all around bike. From what i've heard about the Titus its a great bike as well. I'm sure either bike is more than capable of most any trail riding. You really need to try to ride both, I know that can be a difficult task.
Just fyi...the 575 can be built to weigh as little as 26lbs or so with a lot of money, 29 or 30lbs is very, very realistic for most. It is rated for a dual crown fork if you so desire and climbs very well and of course loves the d/h....
Just fyi...the 575 can be built to weigh as little as 26lbs or so with a lot of money, 29 or 30lbs is very, very realistic for most. It is rated for a dual crown fork if you so desire and climbs very well and of course loves the d/h....
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sounds smilar
I have read a lot of good things about the 575. It seems like mtbr likes the 575 and mba likes the motolite. I think that mba might choose the motolite for the wrong reasons (business, advertising, etc.) However if they like the titus for the right reasons I don't know.
I have read a lot of good things about the 575. It seems like mtbr likes the 575 and mba likes the motolite. I think that mba might choose the motolite for the wrong reasons (business, advertising, etc.) However if they like the titus for the right reasons I don't know.
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My advice..don't listen to that crap. Read as much on the Titus and Yeti forums you can, word of mouth (although biased on a specific forum) is worth much more then a mag...justinmosiman said:
Can't go wrong with either bike on paper, its all about feel at that level, thats why I say you have to ride both to compare. Only you can tell which one is for you.
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As a owner of both (sort of)
So... I've got a 04 Quasimoto and an 05 575 and ride both extensively. Granted the Quasi is NOT the Moto but has the FSR suspension design. 1st. The 575 will SMOKE most bikes on the climb. Set the platform to firm and crank away. Light and fast. Blows the quasi away on the climbs. Bike weight difference is @ 2-3 pounds. To me, that's insignificant.
2nd. The FSR is a little bit better WRT traction on the technical descents. Seems to stay stuck to the ground a little better than the low single pivot of the 575. As a previous owner of a higher single pivot (mountain cycle San Andreas) the 575 is worlds better!
3rd. 575's suspension seems bottomless. Unbelievable feeling while flying down all the technical descents on south mtn. Very similar to the 6" of travel on the Quasi. both equal in that dept.
For general 'all mountain' biking..... I prefer the 575. My personal preference.
So... I've got a 04 Quasimoto and an 05 575 and ride both extensively. Granted the Quasi is NOT the Moto but has the FSR suspension design. 1st. The 575 will SMOKE most bikes on the climb. Set the platform to firm and crank away. Light and fast. Blows the quasi away on the climbs. Bike weight difference is @ 2-3 pounds. To me, that's insignificant.
2nd. The FSR is a little bit better WRT traction on the technical descents. Seems to stay stuck to the ground a little better than the low single pivot of the 575. As a previous owner of a higher single pivot (mountain cycle San Andreas) the 575 is worlds better!
3rd. 575's suspension seems bottomless. Unbelievable feeling while flying down all the technical descents on south mtn. Very similar to the 6" of travel on the Quasi. both equal in that dept.
For general 'all mountain' biking..... I prefer the 575. My personal preference.
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rode both...
and the Marin quad link equivalent before I decided. My rank was:
1. Marin
1a. 575
1b. Titus
I ended up with the Marin. Really all 3 bikes were awesome, very little difference in the REAL ride quality, my decision came down to cost and availability. The Marin was available immediately for $650 the Yeti was 2-3 weeks at $1200 and the Titus was 6-8 weeks at best for $1300. I gave the edge to the Marin because of the cost, and the fact that I could have it basically "now". I will not look back, I love the bike. But, If I were just to choose between the Yeti and Titus, I would have chosen the Yeti. I felt it pedalled a small bit better than the Titus, and gave up nothing on the downhill performance.
PS, I rode the Ellsworth Moment too, but just could not justify the $$ over the other 3.
and the Marin quad link equivalent before I decided. My rank was:
1. Marin
1a. 575
1b. Titus
I ended up with the Marin. Really all 3 bikes were awesome, very little difference in the REAL ride quality, my decision came down to cost and availability. The Marin was available immediately for $650 the Yeti was 2-3 weeks at $1200 and the Titus was 6-8 weeks at best for $1300. I gave the edge to the Marin because of the cost, and the fact that I could have it basically "now". I will not look back, I love the bike. But, If I were just to choose between the Yeti and Titus, I would have chosen the Yeti. I felt it pedalled a small bit better than the Titus, and gave up nothing on the downhill performance.
PS, I rode the Ellsworth Moment too, but just could not justify the $$ over the other 3.
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Clearly you should save yourself some money and buy my (Small) Loco-Moto for only $600, shipped! What's it got that the Moto-lite doesn't have? Oh yeah, the extra pound of weight!
Seriously the Loco is a good bike if you're interested. Haven't ridden the Moto-lite, but I do know one thing. The one thing I don't like about the Loco is that there is limited tire clearance, I can SQUEEZE a Tioga DH 2.3 in there, but that's about it. You think if they were coming out with a new bike to replace the Loco they'd fix this problem, but apparently they haven't. So if tire clearance is an issue for you, now you know.
PS: someone please buy my Loco! I need the cash!
Clearly you should save yourself some money and buy my (Small) Loco-Moto for only $600, shipped! What's it got that the Moto-lite doesn't have? Oh yeah, the extra pound of weight!
Seriously the Loco is a good bike if you're interested. Haven't ridden the Moto-lite, but I do know one thing. The one thing I don't like about the Loco is that there is limited tire clearance, I can SQUEEZE a Tioga DH 2.3 in there, but that's about it. You think if they were coming out with a new bike to replace the Loco they'd fix this problem, but apparently they haven't. So if tire clearance is an issue for you, now you know.
PS: someone please buy my Loco! I need the cash!
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The latest Titus Moto-lite addresses the issue, finally.FishMan473 said:
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I've owned both...
I'm on a Moto-Lite now. Night and Day difference! The Moto-Lite is a much better quality frame. IMHO it is a more balanced ride. Cushy enough to handle Nat'l Coast 2 Coast but efficient enough to climb pretty much anything in the area.
No offense to any other 575 owners... My experience was less than desireable.
If you go with the 575 you'd better like the feel of a single pivot suspension design (that's pretty much what it is). I could never find a happy medium between cushy ride and efficient climbing. I actually owned 2 575's a both of them were so noisy it they sounded like they were going to fall apart. The head badge on the 2nd one DID!justinmosiman said:
I'm on a Moto-Lite now. Night and Day difference! The Moto-Lite is a much better quality frame. IMHO it is a more balanced ride. Cushy enough to handle Nat'l Coast 2 Coast but efficient enough to climb pretty much anything in the area.
No offense to any other 575 owners... My experience was less than desireable.
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But, you should also know that Jim buys and sells frames at an amazing rate, barely keeping some of them longer than a ride or two it seems. In the 1.5 years that I've known Jim, I can't even begin to count the number of different bikes that he's owned.waltaz said:
The grass is always greener cliche may apply in his case.
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Now, if only we could figure out how to apply Jim's method to wives.AZ Mikey said:But, you should also know that Jim buys and sells frames at an amazing rate, barely keeping some of them longer than a ride or two it seems. In the 1.5 years that I've known Jim, I can't even begin to count the number of different bikes that he's owned.
The grass is always greener cliche may apply in his case.
By the way, what is the "over/under" on Jim's retention of the ML?
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i've got even money that says the ML doesn't last 'til march. and i could go shorter with odds.AZ Mikey said:
back on topic, i ride a 575 and absolutely love it. think of it as a 5 spot with 3/4" more travel and about $600 less. it rides like a single pivot about as much (read nil) as the new turner tnt all the homers are raving about.
as far as noise, wrap the drive side stays, like you would on any bike, and it's as quiet as anything.
sorry about your headbadge jim. i would sell mine too if such a critical component abandoned ship.
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I wouldn't compare it to a 5 Spot (IMO). The Spot has a more linear feel (in terms of rear suspension) to it where as the 575 is a little sticky initially and gets real squishy during mid to end of stroke. I've owned a few SC Superlights and they have a similar feel to them. Obviously this is very dependent on how the shock is set up... Again, just my $0.02.dirtbag said:
I had road tubes wrapped inside Lizard Skins on both seat and chain stay to no avail...dirtbag said:
It bummed me out because I emailed Yeti twice about the headbadge thing and they never even responded... Salt on my wounds.dirtbag said:sorry about your headbadge jim. i would sell mine too if such a critical component abandoned ship.
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