Here is some info on the Carbon 456older and slower said:Want a knock around carbon hartail. Just for fun and light trails. I'm short and fat. Which frame? Let me here from owners, please.
Or a eBay carbon from China?
Roger that. But for what I want, either will do. All I want is a carbon hard tail to use all the parts out in the shed. Otherwise, my wife will make me get rid of them. :eekster:trailville said:The 456 and Serum are not really comparable frames. The 456 is an AM hardtail, made for longer travel, has a slacker head tube angle, and is beefier. The Serum is more of a classic XC CF frame.